I suspect I am in your camp, Mark, though obviously it would be nice if
we had measurements on this instead of conjectures.
I will offer some anecdotal evidence concerning humans playing other
humans, from club and tournament playing experience: you will find that
shorter time limits amplify the winning probability of stronger players
when humans play other humans. Beating somebody 2 stones stronger than
you on Blitz is much harder than beating them on a longer time limit;
you may find that you need 3 handicap stones. The bigger the strength
difference, the worse it gets. Beating a professional player in Blitz Go
is *ferociously* difficult, even with very high handicap.
Humans are extremely good at recognizing patterns, whole board
awareness, and intuition about influence; reading more into the game is
useless for a human without these skills. It has never really surprised
me that stronger players are that much better at short time limits,
given their larger experience and knowledge. At the extreme end, you
have the beginner: even if it's a human with incredible reading ability,
he/she will still lose with a three hour time limit, to somebody a few
stones stronger, and on a 10 minute limit.
Well, some trials with different time limits against computers would be
nice, I guess :)
Christian
On 26/10/2009 23:14, Mark Boon wrote:
2009/10/26 Don Dailey<dailey....@gmail.com>:
Yes, you understood me right. I disagree with Olivier on this one. To
me it is self-evident that humans are more scalable than computers because
we have better heuristics. When that is not true it is usually because the
task is trivial, not because it is hard.
Personally I rather think that what makes a human good at certain
tasks is not necessarily a conscious effort, and that doesn't have to
be a trivial task. So then actively thinking longer doesn't help as
much because you lack the control over the thought-process. I believe
very much that Go falls in that category, where Chess does not.
Mark
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