In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Basti
Weidemyr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
In European tournaments, I have been told, when a group is claimed by
one player to be a seki, and by the other player to be dead, the player
who claims it is dead will receive one stone, as a prisoner, from his
stubborn opponent foreach stone he plays in his own would-be- territory.
I don't know what rule set is now applied in most European tournaments.
France and the UK now use AGA rules (or something very similar). In
these countries, what you describe will indeed happen. This is done as
what I consider to be a bodge, to allow the Japanese counting method to
produce the result appropriate for Chinese scoring.
If Chinese rules are in use, prisoners are ignored, captured stones are
just put back in the bowls, and both stones and territory are counted at
the game end. This is a simpler, bodge-free, way of achieving the same
effect.
Nick
If dame was filled, I see no reason why this would not be possible to
implement as a cleanup phase on go-servers, like the one used for new
zealand and chinese rules. Do you? It would be the human-adaption of
the play-it-out-then-restore-and-count-again, that David mentioned.
Best
Basti Weidemyr
PS: It is midnight and I am really not a rules expert, like some people
here. Did I overlook something?
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On Sep 16, 2008, at 1:06 AM, Peter Drake wrote:
I've asked this question of a couple of people and got different
answers, so I thought I'd check here.
Suppose, under Japanese rules, I throw a (hopeless) stone into your
territory. I keep passing until you've actually removed it (playing
four stones inside your own territory, thus losing a net three
points). If you try to pass as well, I stubbornly insist that the
stone is alive, thus restarting the game.
What prevents this sort of abuse? Is this one of those cases where
the tournament director has to adjudicate?
(This is not a problem under Chinese or AGA rules.)
Peter Drake
http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/
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