Nick Wedd wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, steve uurtamo > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > < snip > > >> to this end, if anyone wants to organize a 9x9 tournament on >> kgs (i'm not sure how this is done) where computer players >> are allowed (encouraged) to play, with cgos-like time controls, > > I think that only a few people on KGS have the power to run > tournaments. I am one of those people, and I have been assigned the > power only so that I can run bot tournaments. I believe that an event > which included a minority of human players would be allowed (though of > course I shall accept wms' view on this). For our purposes, this should be an invitational tournament. It should include well known bots that "we believe" are in the low kyu - low dan range - perhaps gnugo at the bottom end. Then it should included well known stable/consistent human players. They should have well established ratings.
Preferably it should be bot vs human, but I seriously doubt KGS has a provision for this. It should be composed of many rounds - so perhaps it should be a round robin tournament. > > I assume that if I organise a tournament in the way that I do bot > tournaments, but without the "robot" restriction, both bots and humans > will be able to play. But I'm not sure about any of this, so I would > start by running a test tournament, with fast time limits so that not > too much time is wasted when things go wrong. > > I do not have the power to tell it not to pair humans with humans. > > I cannot set cgos-like time controls, with their element of Fischer > time. CGOS doesn't use Fischer time - it is absolute time control. (1/4 second is added to the clock for each move - but I don't think that is particularly relevant. Just set the time control for 5 minutes total time per player. - Don > The nearest thing that KGS supports is absolute time plus a very fast > overtime (either Canadian or byo-yomi). > > Nick > >> i'd be happy to do the ELO->rank analysis after the fact (although >> i imagine that jacques would do a better job. :) >> >> the more games the better, and with reasonable time controls, >> there's no reason that this couldn't be something like the ironman >> tournaments that kgs occasionally runs, in the sense that a >> multi-day tournament during various times of the day would provide >> for a rich and wide variety of players. i'd ignore everything but >> the game results, of course, and would just need kgs rank at start >> of tournament for each player, and elo information at start of >> tournament for each bot. > _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
