On 4/14/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 20:13 +0200, Łukasz Lew wrote:
> Libego played at old CGOS with name sth like UCT-107-???k
>
> 100k was about 1550k
> 200k about 1650k
>
> I don't remember and I can't find the rating list anymore.
>
> Łukasz

I have posted the cross-tables, so you should be able to
figure out what you need from this:


This is nice, but the ratings doesn't show.. only the win percentages.
Is there a way to get to the ratings too?

/Christian


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> On 4/14/07, Darren Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> I've been trying the libego program "out of the box", and am up to
> > >> 200,000 UCT playouts, but still gnugo 3.6 on level 6 is winning 10 out
> > >> of 10. ...
> > >
> > > If 200,000 play-outs is being beat, something is broken.  Even
> > > a bad implementation should do better than that.
> > >
> > > Does libego provide a full UCT implementation out of the box?
> >
> > Thanks for the reply Don.
> >
> > I've just reviewed the code again and it seems to be the same algorithm
> > as described at http://senseis.xmp.net/?UCT
> >
> > The way it is implemented differs from the pseudo-code in a few minor
> > ways, but notably: it (libego) maintains a float win-rate for the node,
> > which is updated, rather than storing wins and recalculating win-rate
> > each time. I suppose there could be a rounding error creeping in there.
> >
> > I've tried changing it to use two ints, for total visits and black wins,
> > and then calculate the winning rate on the fly. But it still cannot win
> > a game against gnugo on level 6: it lost 9 out of 9 at 100K playouts,
> > and has lost 4 out of 4 at 500K playouts. Yet there is no major bug:
> > when I played it a game at each of 100K and 500K it played reasonable
> > go, and I could notice that 500K was stronger.
> >
> > Has anyone else tried studying or using libego's UCT implementation? Is
> > there another open source implementation of UCT I can compare against?
> >
> > > One thing that I think most people are doing is related to how you
> > > select a move once you have finished the search.   Do you pick the
> > > highest scoring move? ...
> >
> > No, currently it chooses the most visited node, ignoring score.
> >
> > Darren
> >
> >
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