Agreed, I would never NOT run Antifreeze through the engine, b/c of the risk, and like others said, the water lift muffler. And also agreed, Propylene Glycol is not much of a bad thing. I did some research into it just recently, it is used in the production of food you eat, cosmetics and lots of other domestic stuff. I just pulled 150 Gallons out of my floor to recycle.(Radiant Heat) So I have several lifetimes supply of the stuff. I was going to offer it to other club members, but after I gave my good buddy a few gallons, he did some fiddling with his antifreeze tester, and didn't think it was where he wanted it.So he bought the pink crap. He is more anal than most people, including some on this list, so I decided I didn't want the trouble. I put my glycol, (DowFrost 50) in the freezer along with the pink stuff, and the glycol was quite liquid at minus 10F, while the pink stuff was a little slushy. I will sleep well with my glycol. Regarding the domestic water, I just put the shopvac on the hose coming out of the pump, open all the faucets in order, and Bob's been my uncle for years. The pink stuff made the water stink terribly all year,even after rinsing.
Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie PA On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 2:58 PM David Knecht via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > This is getting off track and no one has actually answered my question. I > know there are many ways of winterizing the engine with antifreeze. My > question was what would be wrong with simply pumping all the water out of > the system by running the engine for a few minutes after the boat is > hauled. I can't come up with a reason why it shouldn't work and it is > certainly the simplest solution. > > BTW- in case you thought it was a joke- propylene glycol is actually one > common type of prep for a colonoscopy > > S/V Aries > 1990 C&C 34+ > New London, CT > > [image: pastedGraphic.tiff] > > On Nov 20, 2024, at 11:36 AM, Brian Davis via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Hahahahahaha. Exactly > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024, 11:27 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I have. It is the same stuff they give you for colonoscopy prep. Not that >> it tasted good ☹ >> >> >> >> >> >> *Joe Della Barba* >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Jeffrey A. Laman <jlam...@outlook.com> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2024 10:34 AM >> *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Cc:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER <cscheaf...@comcast.net>; Della Barba, Joe < >> joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Winterizing the engine >> >> >> >> Doesn't mean it's good for the environment. Would you drink it? >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2024 10:13 AM >> *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Cc:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER <cscheaf...@comcast.net>; Della Barba, Joe < >> joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Winterizing the engine >> >> >> >> Airports spray it on airplanes by the thousands of gallons and no one is >> catching all that! >> >> >> >> >> >> *Joe Della Barba* >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Richard Bush via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2024 9:56 AM >> *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Cc:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER <cscheaf...@comcast.net>; Richard Bush < >> bushma...@aol.com> >> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Winterizing the engine >> >> >> >> What's wrong with the pink stuff? I though it was supposed to be >> biodegradable....? >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> >> 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; >> >> Richard N. Bush Law Offices >> >> 2950 Breckenridge Lane >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2950+Breckenridge+Lane?entry=gmail&source=g>, >> Suite Nine >> >> Louisville, Kentucky 40220 >> >> (502) 584-7255 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 09:53:22 AM EST, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via >> CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> Your method saves buying chemicals, and saves poluting the environment, >> but the old method of sticking the engine's water intake hose into a bucket >> of antifreeze and running the engine until the pink stuff exits the exhaust >> is slightly more thorough and less crawling around. Our muffler has no >> drain. >> >> >> >> I use two buckets. One has a hose bibb fitting at the bottom and a short >> hose with a ball valve allows me to close the valve before starting the >> engine. The second bucket, is what I use to scrub the deck and it gets >> hung by rope tied to the stern rail. It gets positioned under the transom >> and next to the exhaust so it can be swung under the exhaust to catch the >> pink stuff when it bright pink. I let the seawater shoot past and collect >> the last gallon of pink. I use it for the sink drains. >> >> >> >> Chuck S >> >> >> >> >> >> On 11/20/2024 9:14 AM EST Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I never pumped antifreeze through the seawater side of my 2gm20f, and did >> not have a problem in 10 yrs of Toronto winters. I did drain the >> seawater side by disconnecting the lower water pump hose, and draining the >> seawater strainer and muffler. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Nov 20, 2024, at 5:44 AM, Paul Hood via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> I can’t answer your question, but I also thought about that recently and >> I realized that antifreeze is running around the head. While the block is >> cold, the thermostat is closed, directing the antifreeze around the head. >> Never had a problem but was curious about the water that might be remaining >> in there. >> >> Paul Hood >> REFUGE – 1981 C&C34 on Georgian Bay* /)* >> >> *From:* David Knecht via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent:* November 20, 2024 8:33 AM >> *To:* CnC CnC discussion list <CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >> *Cc:* David Knecht <davidakne...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Stus-List Winterizing the engine >> >> After winterized my boat I got to thinking about the process of pumping >> antifreeze through the engine and water tank system. Some people winterize >> their house water system by blowing all the water out of the lines instead >> of pumping in antifreeze. If you did the same with the seawater side of >> the engine by simple running the engine until nothing came out of the >> exhaust hose, wouldn't that work to protect the engine from freezing over >> the winter? That might be a problem running a standard impeller in the >> water pump dry, but with a run-dry impeller, I don't see why it wouldn't >> work. Dave >> >> S/V Aries >> 1990 C&C 34+ >> New London, CT >> >> >> >> Your contributions help pay the fees associated with this list and help >> to keep it active. Please help by making a small contribution using PayPal >> at: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/stumurray All contributions are >> greatly appreciated. >> >> Your contributions help pay the fees associated with this list and help >> to keep it active. Please help by making a small contribution using PayPal >> at: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/stumurray All contributions are >> greatly appreciated. >> >> Your contributions help pay the fees associated with this list and help >> to keep it active. 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