Hey David, Leverage. The 34/36 has the traveller located on the cabintop at about 45% E while the 37/40 traveller position is further back on the bridge deck, probably at 75% or 80% E so it's mainsheet has much more leverage on the sail.
On my 34R, I located the traveller just in front of the pedestal at about 90% or 95% E and found 6:1 was not enough to enable me to release the cam cleat when she was loaded up, unless I put my foot against it. This became critical when trying to round the windward mark in a race and crew struggled with it. I added a 4:1 fine tune and it works great. One huge disadvantage is cockpit spaghetti. The end boom 6:1 mainsheet requires about 80 ft of line and the fine tune adds another bit of line that winds up on the floor. Because of the spaghetti, I changed my genoa sheets to red to help the crew during a tack, avoid standing on the line during the release. Sucks when the leech of the genoa gets pinned onto the spreader tip because someone is standing or sitting on the jib sheet. I reduced the purchase to 5:1 and added a pendant to the traveller block, but I could add pendants to the boom mounted blocks to reduce the length of the tackle and shorten the mainsheet. Need to play with that on the water next year. Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Pasadena Md > On 11/19/2020 9:10 AM David Knecht <davidakne...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I am surprised that this setup works well for you and want to figure out > why. I have the double-ended setup on my main that Chuck describes except I > have 5:1 at the traveller/cam cleat and the other end led forward and then > back to a stopper and cabin top winch. I like the setup so that I can use > the traveller end for lighter wind to quickly haul in the main or let it out. > In heavier winds, I use the winch end to control. However, even with 5:1 on > the traveller, there is no way I could ever tighten the main sufficiently > for upwind work by hand with winds above 10 knots. It requires the winch to > generate enough power. So I am surprised that with the 6:1 (and larger main: > 37 vs. 34+) you could haul the main in by hand with this setup. I imagine it > is more efficient with the pulling angles of the blocks, and less friction, > but could it make that much difference? Dave > > S/V Aries > 1990 C&C 34+ > New London, CT > > > > > On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Josh Muckley < > muckl...@gmail.com mailto:muckl...@gmail.com > wrote: > > Some of the questions that come up on the list are such repeats and > > are easier to explain with videos than with pictures or words... Yes I have > > a few videos. > > > > Those are standard garhauer components but for the bigger one I > > removed the cam cleat so as to create a location for the smaller block to > > attach. I discussed a formal modification with the guys at garhauer but > > never really got anywhere. > > > > Here are some more individual pics. > > https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yY3Qtbi1VSllwM3M > > > > Josh Muckley > > S/V Sea Hawk > > 1989 C&C 37+ > > Solomons, MD > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 11:19 Chuck Saur < cssau...@gmail.com > > mailto:cssau...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks, Josh!! Really nice setup and exactly > > what I was looking for! I assume those are standard Garhauer blocks? You > > must have quite a YouTube library by now! > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck Saur > > > > > > 517 490-5926 Cell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:06 AM Josh Muckley < > > > muckl...@gmail.com mailto:muckl...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > https://youtu.be/VNUGnNAGsDo > > > > > > > > Josh Muckley > > > > S/V Sea Hawk > > > > 1989 C&C 37+ > > > > Solomons, MD > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 09:29 Chuck Saur < > > > > cssau...@gmail.com mailto:cssau...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello gang...thinking > > > > about spending boat bucks already. My mainsheet has the original > > > > setup, going from 3:1 at the traveler, along the boom to block at mast > > > > collar, and back through a stopper to a winch. > > > > > I've seen pics of different configurations, the > > > > > enviable upgrade seems where the mainsheet stays at the traveler in > > > > > the cockpit, and has a two-speed setup with camcleats. With my wife > > > > > and I usually doing the sailing, the purchase and size would need to > > > > > be significant enough to enable either of us to pull the main in > > > > > under a blow, without a winch and avoiding cardiac issues. So any of > > > > > you 37/40 owners have experience and suggestions with mainsheet > > > > > configurations to offer before I help some supply house achieve their > > > > > sales quota this month? Thanking anyone in advance! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck Saur > > > > > > > > > > 517 490-5926 Cell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > October is the time to show your appreciation > > > > > with a small contribution to this list to help offset the costs. If > > > > > you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- > > > > > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > October is the time to show > > > > > your appreciation with a small contribution to this list to help > > > > > offset the costs. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to > > > > > send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu > > > > > > > > > > > October is the time to show your > > > > appreciation with a small contribution to this list to help offset the > > > > costs. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send > > > > contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu > > > > > > > > October is the time to show your appreciation with a > > > small contribution to this list to help offset the costs. 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