Joe; what I would like to get is some analysis on whether the lighter pole is 
worth the additional cost? Thanks 

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> On Apr 3, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Pro – it is lighter
> Con – it costs more
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
> Bush via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 1:46 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Richard Bush <bushma...@aol.com>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Downwind sailing- Whisker pole length and 
> height
>  
> Andy; I liked your article; would you advise pro or con on the cost of using 
> a carbon fiber whisker pole? Thanks
>  
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
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>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tue, Apr 2, 2019 10:26 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Downwind sailing- Whisker pole length and height
> 
> Here's a short piece I wrote on how to rig and set a pole. It really isn't 
> too big a chore, if you do it right.
> https://www.cruisingworld.com/how/sailing-downwind-set-whisker-pole
>  
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI 
> USA    02842
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> 
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 09:33, David Knecht via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I have to disagree with the recommendation to just use the spinnaker pole.  I 
> bought a whisker pole because it weighs much less than the spinnaker pole and 
> I can store it vertically attached at the mast end.  I don’t think I could 
> maneuver the spinnaker pole in place by myself on the unstable deck of a boat 
> downwind.  I don’t trust my balance plus it is really heavy and unwieldy even 
> on firm ground.  The whisker pole also allows me to set different lengths 
> depending on conditions.  
>  
> Related to that: I read the Forespar recommendations on whisker pole use the 
> other day.  They strongly recommended using a topping lift.  I have not done 
> that although I have one.  It seems like it might affect sail shape as the 
> weight of the pole pulling down on the clew might alter the shape of the 
> leech of the sail.  I will play when I can sail again, but wonder if anyone 
> has thoughts.  Dave
>  
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
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>  
> On Mar 29, 2019, at 7:04 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>  
> Pretty serious racers there worrying about using a whisker pole longer than J 
> and the associated time penalty and that is really only a consideration on a 
> run. There are so many other reasons to take extra seconds or minutes to 
> complete the course. Just stick with your spin pole use your topping lift and 
> pole the genoa out a little to windward so wing on wing with genoa to weather 
> Always found that fastest on a run and less chance of accidental jibe of the 
> mainsail. Try it if you got a spinn pole onboard
>  
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:48 PM David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> If I were racing in that neck of the woods I would like some clarification of 
> this.   Unrestricted pole length is a major advantage...especially in light 
> airs.  
> 
> Get Outlook for Android
>  
> From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Michael Brown via 
> CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:40:21 PM
> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Michael Brown
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Downwind sailing- Whisker pole length and height
>  
> Not much in the PHRF-LO Handicapper's manual on the topic. It is covered in
> meeting notes from 2008 and 2009.
>  
> WPL penalty – There will no longer be a penalty for oversized Whisker Pole 
> lengths.
>  
> 2009 Spring Meeting.
>  
> https://www.phrf-lo.org/index.php/about-us/meetings/central-council/205-2009-spring-meeting
>  
> It would be nice if there was some definitive statement in the current 
> documentation but I
> do not see any.
>  
>  
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C&C 30-1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 12:45:53 +0000 
> From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com> 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> 
> 
> Michael 
> 
> Check the PHRF-LO bylaws carefully.  In PHRF-NS the whicker pole is 
> considered to be a spinnaker pole which is limited to J.  You may wish to 
> look in a definitions section if one is available.  I have been involved with 
> handicapping for many years in our region and this is my understanding of how 
> most areas do it.  However I do know there are some areas that have separate 
> limit for whisker pole than for spinnaker pole that is permitted to be longer 
> than J ? I just cannot recall at this time which areas those are 
> 
> Mike 
> Persistence 
> Halifax, NS
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