Hi Don,

I have a 1974 C&C 35-II with the same drain plan.  I’ve sailed in >34kts in 
Puget Sound (I didn’t look after that) and some puffs were around 50 - reported 
by other cruising boats, returning from the same raft-up.  I should have had 
the third reef in, but had my hands full by then.  Depending on the wave 
conditions, I only buried the rail every 3-5 waves.  We don’t have a dodger, so 
I like the “protection” of the leeward aft cockpit seat, and on the big puffs 
got sprayed, and the really big one, likely over 50, slightly hosed.  I was 
very impressed with the combings and deck design, as I watched 3-6 inches of 
foaming water flowing down the deck towards me.  C&C got it right, the combing 
curves, and the water was sloshed right off the boat!  I’m pretty sure you 
would need much bigger offshore waves to get any real water in the cockpit.

No I take that back!  Years ago, we were crossing the sound, close behind a big 
container ship.  I headed up to take a picture, and Kathleen calmly said “I 
think I will go straight into this one.”  Before I could say anything, the bow 
dropped about 8’ into the hole, I stepped up onto the coach-house, put my elbow 
over the boom, and picked up my feet as the wave poured over the boat into the 
cockpit.  It didn’t take long for about  16” of water to disappear, and as she 
jumped up on the aft seats to keep her feet dry, she said “Well I don’t think I 
will do that again!”  We had the companion-way hatch closed, but forward hatch, 
and the scoop vents in the head were under water and leaked.  Even years later, 
Kathleen is very good about checking that the forward hatch is dogged down. . . 
every time we go out.

Great boats!  Happy New Year, Lee  


> On Jan 3, 2019, at 7:17 31PM, Don Kern via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> With all this discussion of the cockpit drains I went out to my boat (C&C35 
> MkII, which spends winter in my side yard) to check the layout and take some 
> measurements.  The two scupper valves are 9" from the centerline (18" apart) 
> and are approx. 20" below the waterline.  The cockpit deck (floor) is 12" 
> above the waterline. The forward T-cockpit drain is 26" above the hull at the 
> valve and valve top is 5 1/4" tall measured from the outside of the hull at 
> the valve exit.  Both valves are faired flush to the hull.  The aft cockpit 
> scupper drains which are T'ed into the forward scuppers valves are further 
> outboard and a little lower.  It is these scuppers that have water when 
> heeling over to the point that we have water coming over the leeward rail.  I 
> have attached a diagram of the set up.  It appears that cross connecting the 
> scuppers would not help keep water out of the aft cockpit as the boat would 
> have to have the spreaders almost in the water.  Portends I have bigger 
> problems then water in the cockpit.
> 
> Don Kern
> Fireball, C&C35 Mk2
> Bristol, RI
> On 1/3/2019 1:47 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>> As I recall, on my 35-1 it takes 15-20 degrees for water to emerge from the 
>> leeward steering station scupper.  That's just when it's starting to get fun!
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:16 AM Garry Cross via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> Understand that. Wonder what degree of heel it would take to achieve that. 
>>  
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:01 PM Neil Andersen <neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> The issue is when the cockpit holes AND the thru-hulls are both below the 
>> line.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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