If the thru hull and drain are on the same side, they both “drop” the same 
amount.  If they are crossed, when the thru-hull drops lower, the connected 
drain goes higher

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661

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From: Garry Cross <garr...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 12:15 PM
To: Neil Andersen
Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

Understand that. Wonder what degree of heel it would take to achieve that. One 
would think that it would be extreme and that one would want to reduce that as 
soon as possible.
I think that regardless, if the cockpit floor scupper is below the water line, 
I don't care where the through hull is for that particular scupper, I got more 
things to worry about.
Having them crossed it is easy for me to imagine a heel where the through hull 
is higher than the drain. I don't see how that helps. The normal way the 
through hull is below the drain unless the boat is upside down.
I am not saying it's wrong, just trying to understand the geometry and drainage.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:01 PM Neil Andersen 
<neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com<mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The issue is when the cockpit holes AND the thru-hulls are both below the line.

Neil
1982 C&C 32 FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

Interesting, on the 35-2 there are 4 drains and 2 through hulls. I don't think 
they are above the waterline.
The aft cockpit floor is lower than the forward one. Both sets of drains are 
forward.
Replaced valves and hoses a few years ago. Reused the through hulls although 
the tabs inside got busted trying to hold them to unscrew the valves. C&C 
should have used real through hulls that are bolted to the hull.

Picture of Second Chance under sail.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1P9GN3fVTNp2PHzZuVQuB29tcbe3oxpA9
Happy New Year


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Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:44:05 -0600
Subject: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains
Just to piggyback on the stuck seacock thread.....

My buddy is a salvor.  He gets the call when a boat on our bayou is on the 
bottom.  A significant percentage of the sinkings involve plugged cockpit 
scupper drains.  Leaves and/or debris plug the drain(s).  The cockpit fills 
with rain water.  The weight of the water sinks the boat until the cockpit 
scuppers are submerged and down it goes.  Sometimes a neglected boat with a low 
companionway threshold will get so much rain water in the cockpit it overflows 
into the cabin.

Leave the cockpit seacocks open and make sure they are clear.  I flush Touche's 
twice a year.  Who knows what spider, mud dauber of whatever builds a nest in 
them.

Also, on haul out.  Make sure you know which way your cockpit drains.  Block 
the boat accordingly.  The 35-1 cockpit, like others, drains forward.  I always 
make sure Touche' is blocked level or slightly bow down.

Also, just as a note, the 35-1 has 4 cockpit scupper drains.  Two of them are 
in the aft steering station which is separated from the rest of the cockpit by 
a bulkhead.  These two drain exit at or slightly above the waterline when the 
boat is floating on its lines.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA




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