Charlie, If the OD club members don't want to take advantage of your facilities on a full time basis, I'd consider a special membership category for them. My club has a couple of membership categories for young sailors or racers, etc. Perhaps you could change your bylaws to include a race membership category with reduced annual dues. Such members would not have full benefits or voting rights. Only the privilege of using your facilities during official race events. The reduced dues would be additional revenue for your club and help support the race program.
We have a "paper club" in the area that routinely approaches our area sailing association for full membership as a yacht club. Our association has steadfastly refused to allow them to join. They want to use our facilities as a member club without paying anything or being able to reciprocate. They have no facility and pay annual dues of less than 5-10% of our member clubs' dues. Their rationale for joining is they are a sailing club and they should be allowed to join. If we allowed that, all our members would resign, join the paper club and enjoy the facility at 1/10 the cost. NOT! Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 8:48 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello all CnCers; > > I have some questions for those of you who belong to Sailing or Yacht > Clubs, especially those with buildings and grounds, etc. Those whose clubs > are 'paper only' can also chime in. > > Blackbeard Sailing Club (BSC) has ~ 200 members and is exclusively a > sailing club founded in ~ 1972. We own real estate, a clubhouse, and other > buildings located near New Bern, NC on a creek that joins the Neuse River. > Dues are modest (~$550/year) as are in-water slips (~$1000/year). We also > have dry storage, dinghy storage and dock boxes available for modest fees. > > Most of the upkeep is done by member labor with occasional professionals > used to replace entire dock sections, etc. which allows the above costs to > be kept reasonable. > > Most members are cruisers with maybe 30 members who actively race either > in a OD San Juan 21 fleet, an Ensign fleet or in local PHRF races run by an > active club (Neuse River Yacht Association) without facilities (a paper > club). Our club (BSC) sponsors an OD regatta and a PHRF regatta or 2 > annually and often helps out with local OD fleets and PHRF races with RC > personnel, equipment, etc. All these fleets are relatively local and many > club members are also members of these fleets/clubs. > > I am a member of several paper clubs which are exclusively devoted to > racing--have even served as the Commodore of several of them. In these > racing clubs, all the revenue and expenses are devoted to racing only--this > keeps things simple and relatively low cost, especially without property > concerns (taxes, upkeep, etc.). > > Recently, BSC has been approached by an OD club with a proposal for them > to associate with us (most of the OD are members of our club) to assist > them with personnel, equipment, insurance, etc. for their weekday races (~ > 10 boats). This fleet has about 16 race days (Thursdays) per year with > several races per day. This is new 'ground' for our club and while we are > keen to support local sailboat racing in all its forms, we have to be > mindful of the majority of our members who do not race but certainly pay > dues, slip fees, etc. Hence our dilemma--how do we support our racing > minority in a club whose majority are cruisers or day sailors? > > What I would like to know from those on the list (in broad terms) is how > your club handles racing in your club, especially if the racers represent a > relative minority of your otherwise cruising members: > > Does the club supply RC and mark/safety boats and personnel for your > racers? > > Are the racers covered by the club's liability insurance while on the > water racing? > > Does the club charge a fee or fees for the support it provides? > > Does the club impose any fees on the racers for the use of the club > facilities such as the clubhouse for dinners, etc.? > > Does your club charge additional fees to your racing members to cover > racing expenses? > > This issue is new to our club and some other local OD fleets and paper > clubs may want a similar association. Thus we would like to get any > agreement between us and a smaller fleet/club mostly correct the first > time. Further, I am sure that this is not the first time this problem has > come up in sailing clubs with racers as members, albeit in a minority. > > Any suggestions on how your club handles these issues or others similar to > these would be appreciated, including copies of by-laws, etc. that spell > out how such issues are addressed. > > Thanks in advance, > > Charlie Nelson > Rear Commodore (to be in 2019!) > Blackbeard Sailing Club > New Bern, NC > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb > Water Phantom > > cenel...@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > >
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