Now that Doug mentions it, there was a previous incarnation of Colorado Sail & Yacht Club called No Coast Yacht Club that included both powerboaters and sailors. A rift developed because the powerboaters didn’t like their dues going to support sailboat racing activities, and things fell apart. Ever since then, CSYC has been a sailboat racing club.
Cheers, Randy > On Dec 18, 2018, at 8:03 PM, svrebeccaleah via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Hi Charlie, > At my club, we own buildings, and docks. Most members are powerboaters(170 > boats). We have a committee (1 guy) that handles the racing. We set aside a > portion of the annual budget for the racing. Members get work party time for > helping out with the race committee boat. We also work closely with a paper > only club. > Hope this answers some of your questions > > > Doug Mountjoy > Sv Rebecca Leah > LH39 > Port Orchard YC wa. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 12/18/18 18:47 (GMT-08:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: cenel...@aol.com > Subject: Stus-List Sailing Club with racers > > Hello all CnCers; > > I have some questions for those of you who belong to Sailing or Yacht Clubs, > especially those with buildings and grounds, etc. Those whose clubs are > 'paper only' can also chime in. > > Blackbeard Sailing Club (BSC) has ~ 200 members and is exclusively a sailing > club founded in ~ 1972. We own real estate, a clubhouse, and other buildings > located near New Bern, NC on a creek that joins the Neuse River. Dues are > modest (~$550/year) as are in-water slips (~$1000/year). We also have dry > storage, dinghy storage and dock boxes available for modest fees. > > Most of the upkeep is done by member labor with occasional professionals used > to replace entire dock sections, etc. which allows the above costs to be kept > reasonable. > > Most members are cruisers with maybe 30 members who actively race either in a > OD San Juan 21 fleet, an Ensign fleet or in local PHRF races run by an active > club (Neuse River Yacht Association) without facilities (a paper club). Our > club (BSC) sponsors an OD regatta and a PHRF regatta or 2 annually and often > helps out with local OD fleets and PHRF races with RC personnel, equipment, > etc. All these fleets are relatively local and many club members are also > members of these fleets/clubs. > > I am a member of several paper clubs which are exclusively devoted to > racing--have even served as the Commodore of several of them. In these racing > clubs, all the revenue and expenses are devoted to racing only--this keeps > things simple and relatively low cost, especially without property concerns > (taxes, upkeep, etc.). > > Recently, BSC has been approached by an OD club with a proposal for them to > associate with us (most of the OD are members of our club) to assist them > with personnel, equipment, insurance, etc. for their weekday races (~ 10 > boats). This fleet has about 16 race days (Thursdays) per year with several > races per day. This is new 'ground' for our club and while we are keen to > support local sailboat racing in all its forms, we have to be mindful of the > majority of our members who do not race but certainly pay dues, slip fees, > etc. Hence our dilemma--how do we support our racing minority in a club whose > majority are cruisers or day sailors? > > What I would like to know from those on the list (in broad terms) is how your > club handles racing in your club, especially if the racers represent a > relative minority of your otherwise cruising members: > > Does the club supply RC and mark/safety boats and personnel for your racers? > > Are the racers covered by the club's liability insurance while on the water > racing? > > Does the club charge a fee or fees for the support it provides? > > Does the club impose any fees on the racers for the use of the club > facilities such as the clubhouse for dinners, etc.? > > Does your club charge additional fees to your racing members to cover racing > expenses? > > This issue is new to our club and some other local OD fleets and paper clubs > may want a similar association. Thus we would like to get any agreement > between us and a smaller fleet/club mostly correct the first time. Further, I > am sure that this is not the first time this problem has come up in sailing > clubs with racers as members, albeit in a minority. > > Any suggestions on how your club handles these issues or others similar to > these would be appreciated, including copies of by-laws, etc. that spell out > how such issues are addressed. > > Thanks in advance, > > Charlie Nelson > Rear Commodore (to be in 2019!) > Blackbeard Sailing Club > New Bern, NC > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb > Water Phantom > > cenel...@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >
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