I can help Mike too.

Hey Mike.
Another significant difference in the boats these guys are talking about is a kitchen. I guess they are not fitted with a gallery, saloon, head and such that you & I are familiar with. <VBG>

BTW, where's Wally?

        Cheers, Russ
        Sweet 35 mk-1





At 07:26 AM 28/12/2017, you wrote:
Mike,

Since you are being so respectful, I must respectively point out that your C&C 37 is not the same boat as the C&C 37+ (or 37/40) — or the 34+ models we are talking about.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log





On Dec 28, 2017, at 10:17 AM, Persuasion37 via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I have to respectfully disagree with everyone. On Persuasion there are three tubes. One at the chart table, one at the sink and one at the saloon table for the centre board pendant. The latter is not structural. The first two go through the cabin roof with a plate welded to the top and two 1/4” bolts (studs) welded to this plate that pass through the cabin roof. The other end is bolted to the respective plywood with two 1/4” bolts with backing plates. A little overkill for something decorative.

Mike
S/V Persuasion
C&C 37 Keel/CB
Long Sault

From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:58 AM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Ken Heaton
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 34/36 kitchen shelf

The similar tube in the 37/40 just ends under the sink and is really just a handhold.

Ken H.

On 28 December 2017 at 10:54, Persuasion37 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I always thought the tubes were structural. You know hold the cabin roof up?

Mike
S/V Persuasion
C&C 37 Keel/CB
Long Sault

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:30 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 34/36 kitchen shelf

You'll have the usual finish work to consider when you get the shelf removed. What will yo do with the metal tube? If you remove the tube you will be left with a hole in the ceiling and a hole in the counter. If you leave the tube you will have exposed holes in the tube where screws were used to anchor the shelf. These holes in the tube will need dressed or decorated. What about the wood on the remaining cabinets? It is likely that a silhouette of the removed shelf will remain. You'll also have screw holes in the wood which will need attention. None of these asthetic details are show stoppers just things you may not have considered. Good luck.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Wed, Dec 27, 2017, 3:55 PM Ben Sutton 1 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I am considering removing the kitchen shelf next to the sink in my C&C 34+. It is the one with the metal post running through one end and attached to the cabinetry at the other. My thinking is as follows: 1. It completely obscures the counter underneath and makes it more or less impossible to use the plate tray behind that counter under the shelf. 2. It is sometimes useful to put things on with the ability to slide a chopping board (and only a chopping board) underneath it. 3. I notice that later models of this design eg. 1991, do not have the shelf. I suspect there is a good reason for this.

Has anyone removed this shelf on their boat?
If so how do you do it?
Did you regret it afterwards or did it turn out to be a good thing?

Any input much appreciated.

Ben Sutton
Evangeline C&C 34+ 1990
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