I have to respectfully disagree with everyone.  On Persuasion there are three 
tubes.  One at the chart table, one at the sink and one at the saloon table for 
the centre board pendant.  The latter is not structural.  The first two go 
through the cabin roof with a plate welded to the top and two 1/4” bolts 
(studs) welded to this plate that pass through the cabin roof.  The other end 
is bolted to the respective plywood with two 1/4” bolts with backing plates.  A 
little overkill for something decorative. 

Mike
S/V Persuasion
C&C 37 Keel/CB
Long Sault

From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:58 AM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Ken Heaton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 34/36 kitchen shelf

The similar tube in the 37/40 just ends under the sink and is really just a 
handhold. 

Ken H.

On 28 December 2017 at 10:54, Persuasion37 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

  I always thought the tubes were structural.  You know hold the cabin roof up?

  Mike
  S/V Persuasion
  C&C 37 Keel/CB
  Long Sault

  From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
  Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:30 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Josh Muckley 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 34/36 kitchen shelf

  You'll have the usual finish work to consider when you get the shelf removed. 
 What will yo do with the metal tube?  If you remove the tube you will be left 
with a hole in the ceiling and a hole in the counter.  If you leave the tube 
you will have exposed holes in the tube where screws were used to anchor the 
shelf.  These holes in the tube will need dressed or decorated.  What about the 
wood on the remaining cabinets?   It is likely that a silhouette of the removed 
shelf will remain.  You'll also have screw holes in the wood which will need 
attention.  None of these asthetic details are show stoppers just things you 
may not have considered.  Good luck.  

  Josh Muckley
  S/V Sea Hawk
  1989 C&C 37+
  Solomons, MD 




  On Wed, Dec 27, 2017, 3:55 PM Ben Sutton 1 via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

    I am considering removing the kitchen shelf next to the sink in my C&C 34+. 
It is the one with the metal post running through one end and attached to the 
cabinetry at the other. My thinking is as follows:
    1. It completely obscures the counter underneath and makes it more or less 
impossible to use the plate tray behind that counter under the shelf.
    2. It is sometimes useful to put things on with the ability to slide a 
chopping board (and only a chopping board) underneath it.
    3. I notice that later models of this design eg. 1991, do not have the 
shelf. I suspect there is a good reason for this.

    Has anyone removed this shelf on their boat?
    If so how do you do it?
    Did you regret it afterwards or did it turn out to be a good thing?

    Any input much appreciated.

    Ben Sutton
    Evangeline C&C 34+ 1990
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