At 10 years old – time to change that out!
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. 
Wolford via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:39 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List CO detector choices

FWIW, I’ve been using a residential unit for at least 10 years (on two 
different boats), and it appears to work fine.  On my previous boat (34), the 
unit sounded when we were motoring and had someone sleeping down below.  The 
problem turned out to be a leak in the A4 exhaust system, and CO was working 
its way into the cabin.  It also sounded last year on my current boat (42), 
again when we were under power and had someone sleeping down below.  We never 
did figure out what set it off, but it stopped when we opened the hatch and 
aired out the cabin.  From my perspective, a good residential unit is 
sufficient.  As I recall, mine was more like $40-50, not $25.

From: David Castor via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:25 PM
To: Ron Ricci<mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com>
Cc: David Castor<mailto:dpcas...@gmail.com> ; 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List CO detector choices

I’m familiar with UL 508. It’s a bit of a racket.  I bought the marine rated CO 
detector but I suspect the residential type would be fine.  The marine type is 
quite a bit smaller which worked much better for me.

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 4:28 PM Ron Ricci 
<ron.ri...@1968.usna.com<mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com>> wrote:
Dave,

I spent some time web surfing and found that there are Marine extensions for UL 
2304.  Someone contacted Kidde to see if their units met the standard and 
struck out.  I no longer have access to UL standards so I can’t check to see 
what they are.  My guess is that if you really want (and have to) comply with 
the standard, you’ll have to pony up for the marine unit.

Just an aside, the business I used to own was certified to apply a UL 508 
(industrial controls) label on equipment we our shop built.  Periodically, we 
were inspected and one time were told that the ground bar we used did not cut 
the mustard because it “was not in our procedure”.  If you go look in the 
circuit breaker box in your house you’ll see a similar ground bar.  For 
something in the order of $2,000, UL would “investigate” it and “add” to our 
procedure.  Go figure if it’s really worth spending the extra bucks on a UL 
“Marine” CO detector.

My CO detector is due for replacement.  I am having a hard time spending over 
$100 for a $25 UNIT.

Regards,
Ron
Ron Ricci
S/V Patriot
C&C 37+
Bristol, RI
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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:55 PM
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Cc: David Castor

Subject: Re: Stus-List CO detector choices

UL 2034 is the applicable standard.  It covers residential, RV and marine 
applications.  But it contains specific additional requirements for use on 
boats.  So I'm guessing if it does not state is rated for marine or boat use, 
it doesn't meet these supplemental requirements.  Not sure what they are.  
There used to be a separate UL standard for boat CO detectors, but it was 
deleted and those requirements were added to UL 2034 as additional requirements 
for marine use.
Dave Castor

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:44 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
My original coal mine CO detector died long ago. I replaced it with a Xintex 
marine CO detector. It is now old enough to need replacement or a factory 
refurb if they will do it. That will cost either $140 or so for new or $25 for 
a refurb. So I was in the hardware store and what do you know – a home CO 
detector for $25 brand new and it runs on batteries.
Does anyone have any idea if these are suitable for a boat? I am going to get 
something, no way do I want people sleeping below without some kind of alarm.



Joe Della Barba
Coquina

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