I have general charts aboard and tools to dead reckon with! I can see no reason 
to not have at least a handheld GPS aboard with batteries. If you can swing it 
though you should have a plotter!  Great peace of mind!
I think I would prefer having AIS to radar. I have the radar but no AIS 
currently!
A good friend said the added benefit of AIS is knowing how many folks (roughly) 
are in the anchorage before you pull in! 
I have read some very negative feedback on real time tests on radar reflectors?

Rick Rohwer 
Paikea 37+
Tacoma, WA



> On Sep 18, 2017, at 12:55, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Jack, as well; but the original post was sent by a person who 
> sails in the Vancouver Island area, which has far less shifting sand and far 
> more immovable rock…   :^)
> 
> Any electronic device is not a replacement for good seamanship and piloting — 
> but it can definitely be of great help when the wether goes bad or it’s dark 
> out.  You still have a responsibility for keeping proper lookout, and for 
> double-checking your position.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2017, at 11:22 AM, David Kaseler via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Jack I agree with all you say.
>> Dave.
>> 1975 C&C 33
>> SLY
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2017, at 8:33 AM, jackbrennan via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Of course, the caveat to all of this is that,  depending on where you sail, 
>>> even up-to-date charts can be anywhere from mildly off to wildly and 
>>> dangerously inaccurate.
>>> 
>>> In the Keys and South and West Florida, where sand shifts all of the time, 
>>> TowboatUS and Seatow do a fine business from boaters blindly following 
>>> their chartplotters. Many inlets and channels in West Florida have nasty, 
>>> uncharted sandbars.
>>> 
>>> After Irma, forget about it. Who knows what's where? You could go aground 
>>> on a sunken boat.
>>> 
>>> Depth sounders and the ability to read water are more valuable navigation 
>>> tools in places like this. I like paper charts because you get a bigger 
>>> view. A GPS is wonderful for confirming that you are where you think you 
>>> are. 
>>> 
>>> Still, I get the allure of all that gear. I crewed on a friend's catamaran 
>>> to Fantasy Fest in Key West last fall. His electronics were several times 
>>> more valuable than many of our boats.
>>> 
>>> I felt like I was on the con of the Starship Enterprise. Especially when we 
>>> hit warp speed (10+ knots). The only thing the electronics couldn't do was 
>>> spot crab pots at night. :)
>>> 
>>> Jack Brennan
>>> Former C&C 25
>>> Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
>>> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> 
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