I’ll expand on my earlier post a bit, since I have one of each:

1.       The phone. This is CHEAP and good. I like the Navionics charts and 
their nav program is very easy to use. I can see no reason NOT to have it 
unless you don’t have a phone. That said, there is no way I would ever trust a 
phone as a primary nav instrument. The battery gets eaten fast using this app, 
it is hard to read in sunlight, it is not waterproof, it is not designed to be 
wet and banged around, and you can always get a phone call right in the middle 
of navigating the narrow rocks passage or maybe some IOS update will kick off. 
You are of course limited by screen size and feeding AIS or instrument data 
into a phone takes some doing.

2.       OpenCPN. My favorite by far. It is an excellent program, charts are 
free, and nothing beats a nice 15 inch color display. I feed AIS info into this 
program and it is very useful with changeable CPA alerts. Radar overlay is 
possible. What I don’t like is all about the PC: It is not marine gear and 
cannot get wet. It sits below out of the sun, wind, and rain where I can’t see 
it from the helm. The current draw is 2x-4x higher than a dedicated plotter. 
Depending on your IT skills, you have some exposure to PC malfunctions at the 
worst possible time. I have mine working pretty well, but any PC can have 
issues. One reason my PC works well is it does NOTHING ELSE. It is never ever 
connected to the internet. No games, no browsing, nothing but nav EVER.

3.       Marine GPS plotter. I have a CP180 at the helm. The CMAP charts are 
mostly excellent, but some areas are less detail than NOAA and some are more. 
It has a nice daylight readable color display, it is waterproof, and it right 
in front of me at the helm. The power draw is low and reliability is high. 
There are multiple NMEA inputs and outputs, so linking to the VHF and AIS is 
easy. The bad points are paying for CMAPs and the screen size. With a 5 inch 
screen, you can see detail or see a long way around you, but not both. For one 
example, to get good enough resolution to see the narrow channel into Kent 
Narrows well, you are basically zoomed in to about 200-300 feet around the 
boat. I bought it to save power and to have a dead reliable screen at the 
*helm*. I am on autopilot about 80% of the time, but the 20% I am not tends to 
be the trickiest navigation where I need to see around me and see the plotter 
with my hand on the wheel. The CP180 has a fishfinder option I may get off 
FleaBay one of these days.
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

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I see you used to be on Sailing Anarchy, too.

Rick Brass
Imzadi  C&C 38 mk2 #47
la Belle Aurore  C&C 25 mk1 #225
Washington, NC



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Other email sailing lists tend to be plagued by a scarcity of real experts, 
flamers, know nothings who believe they know it all, big personalities who 
argue at the drop of a hat and more.

Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.








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-------- Original message --------
From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Date:09/18/2017 5:51 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Frederick G Street via CnC-List
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Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none
Fred,

Why are you suddenly so friendly? In the past non-C&C lurkers where threatened 
with keelhauling…


Marek
1994 C270 legato
Ottawa, ON
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On Sep 18, 2017, at 2:00 PM, David Castor via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Mostly lurk on this list since I bought a Sabre instead of C&C.

We forgive you…   :^)   Actually, my slip neighbor has a Sabre 36, and it’s a 
beautiful boat.  I may go that way someday, too.


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