Wasn't there a booklet that came with it? Gave the deformation vs. actual
tension for a given size wire.If you don't have it, there may be one
online.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rod Rigging Tension C&C 32
I have a 1971 C&C 35 mk1 with an old style rig tension gauge (see pics as
follow....
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/y2fsam4l5vrvz7v/AAAzwvyuC7njm3lEGi3xNJ1SaAnyone have
instructions on how to use this old style gauge?
It has a scale reading from 1 to about 3.
Cheers, James
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rod Rigging Tension C&C 32
All, I can share my recent experience on this. I had Loos gauges for my old
Catalina with stranded rigging and came to like having that piece of mind.
When I bought my C&C with rod, I had trouble with the cost of the RT-10 and did
not buy one for several years.
I put out an inquiry several weeks ago and Harry Hallgring from the list was
kind enough to ship me his gauge to try. It turned out that in previous years
I was nowhere near tight enough doing it by feel, the gauge gave me the
confidence to tighten them down properly. I can confirm that it has made a
substantial difference in how the boat sails and eliminated some issues we had
with differences between tacks.
I was also surprised at how quickly the tension changes with rod as Rob points
out below. Once you get to a certain tension, the gauge moves rapidly with
only a little movement of the turnbuckle.
Long story short, I am now sold on the value of the RT-10, though it still
seems like a lot to pay. I started looking for a used one, but came across new
ones at the Binnacle's US site
(http://us.binnacle.com/product_info.php?products_id=9150) for $426, no tax and
free shipping. That seemed too good to pass up and I was not sure how long it
would last, so I am now the owner of an RT-10.
Jim Reinardy
C&C 30-2 "Firewater"
Milwaukee, WI
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rod Rigging Tension C&C 32
From: Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: Wed, June 14, 2017 7:55 am
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Cc: Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com>
Thanks. I lack both experience and empirical data, (no gauge) so your input
really helps. I suspect that I simply did not set it up correctly
initially. Last week's sail was in 14-16kts, gusts to 19, rare-ish here, a
fair bit of "bash and crash" and first time this season, so any microbends
certainly got unbent, and the unseated was seated.
Dave
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 09:55:31 -0300
Subject: Stus-List Rod Rigging Tension C&C 32
Dave:
I can't add much to what Josh has stated. Each Spring, the mast is stepped, I
set the rig tensioned the same as every year.....even if my boat sits at the
dock, the shroud tension will ease a bit...maybe as much as 100 lbs. or 5% to
7% of the initial tension.
One half turn on my turnbuckle is not a lot of 'actual distance' gained or
losed.....as Josh says "a micro bend"..... however, if I leave the gauge on the
shroud when the turnbuckle is tightened or loosened, it will move the gauge
accordingly.
Without the Loos RT 10, I am merely guessing the rig tension......under
tensioning is obvious when you take the boat out under sail.....over tensioning
is not as easy to detect.
I come from a racing background where rig tension is paramount.....we were
constantly adjusting it to suit the conditions on race day......sometimes up
and down between races on the same day While I don't race AZURA, old habits
like rig tensioning has remained with me.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2017-06-13 5:45 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
"How do I gauge?" - this is the argument for paying $500 for the Loos Tension
gauge, otherwise you are just guessing.
I believe there are micro bends, stretches, seating, and flexing throughout the
system which allow the rig to loosen up. With such low stretch rod rigging
only a fraction of an inch can be the difference between hundreds of pounds of
tension and zero pounds.
Josh MuckleyS/V Sea Hawk1989 C&C 37+Solomons, MD
On Jun 13, 2017 12:40 PM, "Dave S via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Timely... I set up my rigging per the instructions in the owners manual
immediately after launch, and Windstar sat for a few weeks other than a couple
of very gentle sails. Finally got to give her a righteous thrashing last
weekend and I returned with slack upper shrouds - a bit alarming. Lowers and
mids not obviously changed, mast step not collapsing, chainplates not failing.I
suspect I had not adequately tightened the uppers. A neighbor explained that
his boat changes shape a bit once launched (or rather, sitting on the cradle
all winter distorts it a bit.)
Without a gauge, how do I gauge that ensure that the shrouds are tight enough?
Deflection?
What is it that re-seats and settles when the rig is first set up?
Tx.
Dave
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