Thanks.  I lack both experience and empirical data, (no gauge) so your
input really helps.      I suspect that I simply did not set it up
correctly initially.  Last week's sail was in 14-16kts, gusts to 19,
rare-ish here, a fair bit of "bash and crash" and first time this season,
so any microbends certainly got unbent, and the unseated was seated.

Dave




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From: robert <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc:
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 09:55:31 -0300
Subject: Stus-List Rod Rigging Tension C&C 32
Dave:

I can't add much to what Josh has stated.  Each Spring, the mast is
stepped, I set the rig tensioned the same as every year.....even if my boat
sits at the dock, the shroud tension will ease a bit...maybe as much as 100
lbs. or 5% to 7% of the initial tension.

One half turn on my turnbuckle is not a lot of 'actual distance' gained or
losed.....as Josh says "a micro bend"..... however, if I leave the gauge on
the shroud when the turnbuckle is tightened or loosened, it will move the
gauge accordingly.

Without the Loos RT 10, I am merely guessing the rig tension......under
tensioning is obvious when you take the boat out under sail.....over
tensioning is not as easy to detect.

I come from a racing background where rig tension is paramount.....we were
constantly adjusting it to suit the conditions on race day......sometimes
up and down between races on the same day   While I don't race AZURA, old
habits like rig tensioning has remained with me.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2017-06-13 5:45 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:

"How do I gauge?" - this is the argument for paying $500 for the Loos
Tension gauge, otherwise you are just guessing.

I believe there are micro bends, stretches, seating, and flexing throughout
the system which allow the rig to loosen up.  With such low stretch rod
rigging only a fraction of an inch can be the difference between hundreds
of pounds of tension and zero pounds.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Jun 13, 2017 12:40 PM, "Dave S via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Timely...
> I set up my rigging per the instructions in the owners manual immediately
> after launch, and Windstar sat for a few weeks other than a couple of very
> gentle sails.  Finally got to give her a righteous thrashing last weekend
> and I returned with slack upper shrouds - a bit alarming.  Lowers and mids
> not obviously changed, mast step not collapsing, chainplates not failing.
> I suspect I had not adequately tightened the uppers.  A neighbor explained
> that his boat changes shape a bit once launched (or rather, sitting on the
> cradle all winter distorts it a bit.)
>
> Without a gauge, how do I gauge that ensure that the shrouds are tight
> enough?  Deflection?
>
> What is it that re-seats and settles when the rig is first set up?
>
> Tx.
>
> Dave
>
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