I will send you the instructions for the one that I have off list.
Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
White Lake, Michigan
On 6/14/2017 10:18 PM, Jim via CnC-List wrote:
I have a 1971 C&C 35 mk1 with an old style rig tension gauge (see pics
as follow....
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/y2fsam4l5vrvz7v/AAAzwvyuC7njm3lEGi3xNJ1Sa
Anyone have instructions on how to use this old style gauge?
It has a scale reading from 1 to about 3.
Cheers, James
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*Sent: *Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:29:36 PM
*Subject: *Re: Stus-List Rod Rigging Tension C&C 32
All, I can share my recent experience on this. I had Loos gauges for
my old Catalina with stranded rigging and came to like having that
piece of mind. When I bought my C&C with rod, I had trouble with the
cost of the RT-10 and did not buy one for several years.
I put out an inquiry several weeks ago and Harry Hallgring from the
list was kind enough to ship me his gauge to try. It turned out that
in previous years I was nowhere near tight enough doing it by feel,
the gauge gave me the confidence to tighten them down properly. I can
confirm that it has made a substantial difference in how the boat
sails and eliminated some issues we had with differences between tacks.
I was also surprised at how quickly the tension changes with rod as
Rob points out below. Once you get to a certain tension, the gauge
moves rapidly with only a little movement of the turnbuckle.
Long story short, I am now sold on the value of the RT-10, though it
still seems like a lot to pay. I started looking for a used one, but
came across new ones at the Binnacle's US site
(http://us.binnacle.com/product_info.php?products_id=9150) for $426,
no tax and free shipping. That seemed too good to pass up and I was
not sure how long it would last, so I am now the owner of an RT-10.
Jim Reinardy
C&C 30-2 "Firewater"
Milwaukee, WI
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rod Rigging Tension C&C 32
From: Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: Wed, June 14, 2017 7:55 am
To: "C&c Stus List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com <mailto:syerd...@gmail.com>>
Thanks. I lack both experience and empirical data, (no gauge) so
your input really helps. I suspect that I simply did not set it up
correctly initially. Last week's sail was in 14-16kts, gusts to
19, rare-ish here, a fair bit of "bash and crash" and first time
this season, so any microbends certainly got unbent, and the
unseated was seated.
Dave
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From: robert <robertabb...@eastlink.ca
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 09:55:31 -0300
Subject: Stus-List Rod Rigging Tension C&C 32
Dave:
I can't add much to what Josh has stated. Each Spring, the mast
is stepped, I set the rig tensioned the same as every
year.....even if my boat sits at the dock, the shroud tension will
ease a bit...maybe as much as 100 lbs. or 5% to 7% of the initial
tension.
One half turn on my turnbuckle is not a lot of 'actual distance'
gained or losed.....as Josh says "a micro bend"..... however, if I
leave the gauge on the shroud when the turnbuckle is tightened or
loosened, it will move the gauge accordingly.
Without the Loos RT 10, I am merely guessing the rig
tension......under tensioning is obvious when you take the boat
out under sail.....over tensioning is not as easy to detect.
I come from a racing background where rig tension is
paramount.....we were constantly adjusting it to suit the
conditions on race day......sometimes up and down between races on
the same day While I don't race AZURA, old habits like rig
tensioning has remained with me.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2017-06-13 5:45 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
"How do I gauge?" - this is the argument for paying $500 for
the Loos Tension gauge, otherwise you are just guessing.
I believe there are micro bends, stretches, seating, and
flexing throughout the system which allow the rig to loosen
up. With such low stretch rod rigging only a fraction of an
inch can be the difference between hundreds of pounds of
tension and zero pounds.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jun 13, 2017 12:40 PM, "Dave S via CnC-List"
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Timely...
I set up my rigging per the instructions in the owners
manual immediately after launch, and Windstar sat for a
few weeks other than a couple of very gentle sails.
Finally got to give her a righteous thrashing last weekend
and I returned with slack upper shrouds - a bit
alarming. Lowers and mids not obviously changed, mast
step not collapsing, chainplates not failing.
I suspect I had not adequately tightened the uppers. A
neighbor explained that his boat changes shape a bit once
launched (or rather, sitting on the cradle all winter
distorts it a bit.)
Without a gauge, how do I gauge that ensure that the
shrouds are tight enough? Deflection?
What is it that re-seats and settles when the rig is first
set up?
Tx.
Dave
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