I have a 1971 C&C 35 mk1 with an old style rig tension gauge (see pics as 
follow.... https://www.dropbox.com/sc/y2fsam4l5vrvz7v/AAAzwvyuC7njm3lEGi3xNJ1Sa 
Anyone have instructions on how to use this old style gauge? 
It has a scale reading from 1 to about 3. 

Cheers, James 


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From: "Jim Reinardy via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: firewa...@reinardy.us 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:29:36 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rod Rigging Tension C&C 32 

All, I can share my recent experience on this. I had Loos gauges for my old 
Catalina with stranded rigging and came to like having that piece of mind. When 
I bought my C&C with rod, I had trouble with the cost of the RT-10 and did not 
buy one for several years. 

I put out an inquiry several weeks ago and Harry Hallgring from the list was 
kind enough to ship me his gauge to try. It turned out that in previous years I 
was nowhere near tight enough doing it by feel, the gauge gave me the 
confidence to tighten them down properly. I can confirm that it has made a 
substantial difference in how the boat sails and eliminated some issues we had 
with differences between tacks. 

I was also surprised at how quickly the tension changes with rod as Rob points 
out below. Once you get to a certain tension, the gauge moves rapidly with only 
a little movement of the turnbuckle. 

Long story short, I am now sold on the value of the RT-10, though it still 
seems like a lot to pay. I started looking for a used one, but came across new 
ones at the Binnacle's US site ( 
http://us.binnacle.com/product_info.php?products_id=9150 ) for $426, no tax and 
free shipping. That seemed too good to pass up and I was not sure how long it 
would last, so I am now the owner of an RT-10. 

Jim Reinardy 
C&C 30-2 "Firewater" 
Milwaukee, WI 





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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rod Rigging Tension C&C 32 
From: Dave S via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
Date: Wed, June 14, 2017 7:55 am 
To: "C&c Stus List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
Cc: Dave S < syerd...@gmail.com > 

Thanks. I lack both experience and empirical data, (no gauge) so your input 
really helps. I suspect that I simply did not set it up correctly initially. 
Last week's sail was in 14-16kts, gusts to 19, rare-ish here, a fair bit of 
"bash and crash" and first time this season, so any microbends certainly got 
unbent, and the unseated was seated. 

Dave 




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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 09:55:31 -0300 
Subject: Stus-List Rod Rigging Tension C&C 32 
Dave: 

I can't add much to what Josh has stated. Each Spring, the mast is stepped, I 
set the rig tensioned the same as every year.....even if my boat sits at the 
dock, the shroud tension will ease a bit...maybe as much as 100 lbs. or 5% to 
7% of the initial tension. 

One half turn on my turnbuckle is not a lot of 'actual distance' gained or 
losed.....as Josh says "a micro bend"..... however, if I leave the gauge on the 
shroud when the turnbuckle is tightened or loosened, it will move the gauge 
accordingly. 

Without the Loos RT 10, I am merely guessing the rig tension......under 
tensioning is obvious when you take the boat out under sail.....over tensioning 
is not as easy to detect. 

I come from a racing background where rig tension is paramount.....we were 
constantly adjusting it to suit the conditions on race day......sometimes up 
and down between races on the same day While I don't race AZURA, old habits 
like rig tensioning has remained with me. 

Rob Abbott 
AZURA 
C&C 32 - 84 
Halifax, N.S. 

On 2017-06-13 5:45 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: 

<blockquote>

"How do I gauge?" - this is the argument for paying $500 for the Loos Tension 
gauge, otherwise you are just guessing. 

I believe there are micro bends, stretches, seating, and flexing throughout the 
system which allow the rig to loosen up. With such low stretch rod rigging only 
a fraction of an inch can be the difference between hundreds of pounds of 
tension and zero pounds. 

Josh Muckley 
S/V Sea Hawk 
1989 C&C 37+ 
Solomons, MD 




On Jun 13, 2017 12:40 PM, "Dave S via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
wrote: 

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Timely... 
I set up my rigging per the instructions in the owners manual immediately after 
launch, and Windstar sat for a few weeks other than a couple of very gentle 
sails. Finally got to give her a righteous thrashing last weekend and I 
returned with slack upper shrouds - a bit alarming. Lowers and mids not 
obviously changed, mast step not collapsing, chainplates not failing. 
I suspect I had not adequately tightened the uppers. A neighbor explained that 
his boat changes shape a bit once launched (or rather, sitting on the cradle 
all winter distorts it a bit.) 

Without a gauge, how do I gauge that ensure that the shrouds are tight enough? 
Deflection? 

What is it that re-seats and settles when the rig is first set up? 

Tx. 

Dave 




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