It should be spelled out in the offer or at least discussed with the broker. You don't want bad feelings over a $400 surprise. When I bought my boat, it was on the hard. I paid for the launch and haul with the survey.
Joel 35/3 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I kinda felt the same as you but regarding the survey. Why doesn't the > owner buy and provide a survey? Wouldn't it make a buyer more likely to > get a contact? I guess there is concern that a survey purchased by the > owner can't be %100 objective. > > The haul and launch fees I do understand kinda. A lot of boats that have > been left/abandoned for the marina to sell will be on the hard. I kinda > prefer a boat on the hard to one on the water so that I can do a cursory > inspection before I go under contract. The alternative is a boat on the > water with an active owner who can take you out for a sail and show you > around before you go under contract. Either way the boat is expected to be > hauled and launched (or launched and then hauled). It is hard to expect > the owner to pay for the haul and launch each time a new buyer comes to > look. > > By the same token you get a contract so that your investments in the sale > can't be lost buy the seller selling the boat out from underneath you. > > IMO the best scenario is an active seller with the boat in the water who > is willing to take you for a sail prior to going under contract. Get him > to show you everything. Feel good about the boat and then get the > contract. An active owner might even split the cost of the haul. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > On Aug 26, 2015 8:23 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> HI Kurt, >> >> I think it becoming obvious to me that my ability to ask a concise >> question is, well...questionable! LOL >> >> Anyway, It had more to do with the responsibily of who should pay for >> the cleaning of sais fouled bottom, not so much whether ot not is should be >> done. Of course you cannot inspect a fouled bottom. >> >> My point is more about why would a seller not want the boat in as good a >> working order as possible. This would, in fact, make the survey go faster >> and smoother and give everyone involved a better more positive experience. >> After all, there is a level of subjectivity involved and that is a matter >> of perspective, observation and ease of doing the task at hand. So, my >> point being, and again this is my limited experience with my own boat >> shopping for 2 different boats, why do sellers not spend just a little >> extra, effort, maybe even a little money so that their boats survey as best >> they can? >> >> I've found now that it is common for the potential buyer to not only go >> out of pocket, on speculation, for not only the survey and haul-out, but >> also, the power-washing of the bottom. Initially I was thinking that, the >> haul-out would be a couple hundred and then the wash would be another $150 >> or so... It not so much the dollar value but the principle I question. >> >> It kind of goes along with the theory that "the seller pays the broker >> fees..." While that may be true, that value is figured into the price, and >> the buyer is the one with the money that ultimately pays those fees. No >> buyer, no fees paid... It's ridiculous to separate any fee in a sale from >> the source of the funds that pay the fee! LOL >> >> Oh Geeze this may now open another can of worms... >> >> Thanks again though for the insights and responses to what is now view by >> me as "a stupid question..." Not so much for my ignorance in needing to >> ask it but, in my inability to articulate it. >> >> Danny >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: Kurt Heckert <kurt_heck...@att.net> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: djhaug...@juno.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Survey Question >> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 03:07:06 -0700 >> >> It is common, the bottom needs cleaning on haul out or you are trying to >> exam a fouled bottom. >> >> ------------------------------ >> * From: * Danny Haughey via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>; >> * To: * <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>; >> * Cc: * Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com>; >> * Subject: * Stus-List Survey Question >> * Sent: * Wed, Aug 26, 2015 1:36:17 AM >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> Okay so I've got a survey with haulout scheduled for this coming >> Saturday. during my conversation with the surveryor, he brought to light >> an interesting point. I had asked if he would be doing the sea trial >> before or after haul out and he said that it would be better to do it after >> because if the bottom were fouled, we wouldn't bet a good sea trial. He >> said if haul first and it is then we could get it cleaned, and I asked "so, >> we could clean it?" he said well you should talk to the broker. So I did >> and he said it common practice for the boat to be powerwashed on a haul >> out. I asked who would pay for that? He said I would be responsible for >> that. I said so, if this thing fails inspection, I'll paying for the >> owners powerwashing? He said that it was common... >> >> I'm thinking what $4 a foot to wash it, then haul it... I knew I had to >> pay for a haulout, but ... is that really common to be on the hook for a >> power washing? I mean it is what it is I've just never seen this >> conversation come up before... >> >> Danny >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -- Joel 301 541 8551
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