Steve:
Instantly, now I feel stupid....we put the standing rigging together
just once and we did it the 'dumb way'.....around and around but in the
boatyard with lots of room....now I know to angle the shroud up and
rotate the tang.....daaa.... I should have known Navtec would have not
designed something so complicated.
You are doing the prudent thing replacing the cap shroud 'eye' at the
spreader.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2015-05-14 1:21 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:
Rob, you are sort of correct .. my mast is laid down on my boat right
now with most of the overhand over the bow. There's at least ten feet
of mast hanging over the water up there and it happens to be the top
of the mast, right where I needed to unscrew those tangs. I started
out as you described, in my tender, going round and round with a
little help from the admiral up on deck .. then I realized! Because
the shroud is not connected to anything on the other end I could angle
it up straight enough to turn the tang without having to go round and
round with the shroud. I instantly felt stupid, but relieved that the
job got so much easier.
Whatever though, you do what you have to do .. I've done weirder stuff
than that to make things work on the boat. Thankfully we had nice
weather yesterday ... not like the day before when I was fighting wind
and waves in my 8' Walker Bay tender to get the rigger aboard. Two
grown men, complete with knees and other body parts to further
complicate the row, made it kind of an awkward trip. But you gotta do
what you gotta do
<http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Ki6lcIT7--/18omqiw9mleoyjpg.jpg>.
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:24 AM, robert via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Mike et al:
Simple answer.....NO....can't be done with the mast up. Several
problems doing it with the mast up.....the most difficult one is
getting the cap shroud in its tang and then screw the tang into
the tie bar inside the mast.....the shroud and the tang have to
rotate as one. I say this as I assume Steve's rig assembles like
mine.
Steve, did you rotate the tang and shroud as one to remove it from
the mast?
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2015-05-13 1:17 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:
Steve
Can you not put it up and rig a halyard to the toerail on the
affected side? Then when new rod comes you could go up in a
bosuns chair to attach it.
Might be a bit tricky around the spreader end but I cannot see
why it could not be done if you didn’t want to incur more launch
costs with cranes. Another option is to lay the mast on top of
boat and launch that way and then use a spar crane at one of the
local clubs to step the mast.
Mike
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*Cc:* Stevan Plavsa
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Rig - crack?
The word from Navtec is "replace", which doesn't surprise me. I
don't see that they have much incentive to tell me to sail with
it as is, from both a liability perspective as well as a sales
perspective. Oh well, our short sailing season just got shorter :(
it's going to be about two weeks before I can get the stick up
again. And then I'm not sure where I'll be putting it up. We had
an agreement for this Friday for me and a few other boats from
our small club to use one of the larger club's cranes. I'm
missing out on that party so it looks like I'll be going to one
of the sketchy port guys down on Cherry Street. I've had
experiences with one of those guys and it was terrible, so I
guess I'll try the other guy. Unless any Toronto listers have
other suggestions?
Thanks,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Michael Brown via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I would file/grind/buff down the suspected crack to see what it
is. At worst the
end is defective and you are sure. I doubt taking 1/64" or less
off will make a
cracked part any worse. At best after you buff it out there is no
crack and the
die does not show up you should be good.
From your original photo #3 you might try in the middle of the
flat part.
Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1
Message: 10
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:24:57 -0400
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Rob was by yesterday, bless him for coming out at 7:00pm on short
notice ..
then putting up with my rowing into the wind and chop. He's a
good sport.
Did the dye test .. jury is out. He's going to Navtec with the
pictures and
I should know by today. If I had more time I would replace it on
principle
but I've got crane time booked on Friday with no idea when the next
opportunity might be, more than likely I'de be paying to have it
done later
in the season. The lost time is more of a concern than the spent
money. So,
if the rig needs fixing then I'm out for a couple of weeks at
least. If not
.. then the mast goes up on Friday just in time for our long
weekend! If
the best case scenario pans out I'll be making plans starting now
to have
the eye dealt with in the fall, as well as one seized tie bar,
otherwise
the rig is sound. I was hoping to spend boat bucks on a new cabin
sole and
running rigging this year. We shall see.
Cheers,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
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