if you are using a WAAS enabled GPS - the accuracy is as good as military - it 
compensates for the offset.

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> On Dec 6, 2014, at 19:34, Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Joel,
> I've heard this argument years ago, that the gov't intentionally altered the 
> GPS signal. 
> I really think the system is not being jambed, but the number of satelites 
> connected could be limited.  I think it's more to control bandwidth than to 
> intentially confuse non-military users.     
> 
> Don't think they want us to run off course and have to dispatch more 
> resources like coast guard helicopters to rescue boater
> 
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
> 
> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 10:18:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation
> 
> Civilian GPS equipment is intentionally less accurate than military 
> equipment.  Your government doesn't want you to know exactly where you are!
> 
> Joel
> 
>> On Saturday, December 6, 2014, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> Hope you are having a great, and warm, weekend, Dennis. It is rainy, gray, 
>> and the high was about 60 in NC today. Not a nice day for boating.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We have all experienced the sort of GPS errors you mentioned at one time or 
>> another. And because we all know that our GPS receiver can calculate out 
>> position to an accuracy of 30 feet or so, we tend to think that the charts 
>> are wrong. But that might not be the whole truth.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I’d bet NOAA had pretty good GPS location numbers on the buoys you “hit”, 
>> and is not far off on the position of the seawall. The 10 to 30 foot 
>> accuracy our GPS reports is based on things like the number and position of 
>> the satellites from which it is getting signals, allowing for things like 
>> the accuracy of its internal clock, inaccuracy in the chart datum, and the 
>> radio waves that carry the time signals from the satellites getting “bent” 
>> by the Earth’s magnetic field. But there is another variable that  the GPS 
>> can’t allow for.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I remember reading, a few years ago, about the GPS system in one of the 
>> science magazines aimed at geeks like me (Probably Scientific American or 
>> Air and Space, but I can’t recall for sure). Seems the GPS system is a good 
>> example of Einstein’s Theory of Relativity. Part of the theory says that 
>> when you go faster, time slows down relative to time measured in a location 
>> that is moving more slowly.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The GPS satellites are traveling at something like 18000MPH faster than we 
>> are on the Earth’s surface. So the atomic clocks on the satellites “tick” 
>> just a wee bit more slowly than the clock on earth. There is a government 
>> facility outside of Omaha where military personnel are tasked with adjusting 
>> the clocks on the satellites, by a few microseconds or nanoseconds, several 
>> times per day to maintain the accuracy of the time signals relative to the 
>> earthbound time. As I recall, if the clocks were not adjusted for 24 hours, 
>> the calculated position of a spot on Earth would be off by something like 5 
>> miles.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> That’s probably more than you wanted to know. But you can probably chalk up 
>> all those buoys the chartplotter boat ran into to Albert.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Oh, and another bit of Einstein trivia: He issued the original patents for 
>> the recipe for Tolberone Chocolate, and the shape of the candy. Which is not 
>> boating related, unless your Admiral likes really good chocolate.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Brass
>> 
>> Washington, NC
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
>> via CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 8:48 AM
>> To: Della Barba, Joe; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I was motoring up a harbor looking at a  nice Raymarine system showing the 
>> boat going through a sea wall 200 feet west of our actual position. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yesterday while motoring in the ICW channel in Santa Rosa Sound near 
>> Navarre, FL, the chartplotter boat took out several of the buoys on the 
>> right side of the channel. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> Touché 35-1 #83
>> 
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Currently on the hook at
>> 
>> 30 23.054N 86 51.884W
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joel 
> 301 541 8551
> 
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