and sometimes there are plain errors.  For example the local Long Beach (CA) 
chart's insert for the downtown marina had the wrong longitude number inserted 
at one point.  Off by 0.1 degree, quite a distance.  I reported it some years 
ago, so probably fixed by now.

Leslie
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On Mon, 12/1/14, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation
 To: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
 Date: Monday, December 1, 2014, 5:47 AM
 
 I was
 motoring up a harbor looking at a  nice Raymarine system
 showing the boat going through a sea wall 200 feet west of
 our actual position. 
 Yesterday while motoring in the ICW
 channel in Santa Rosa Sound near Navarre, FL, the
 chartplotter boat took out several of the buoys on the right
 side of the channel. 
 Dennis C.Touché 35-1
 #83Mandeville, LA
 Currently on the hook
 at30 23.054N 86 51.884W
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 On Dec 1,
 2014, at 7:35 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List"
 <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
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 I am not sure where “where
 ever” is, but some areas out of the 1st world
 are using surveys from 100-200 years ago to make those
 electronic charts.
  Recently the US Navy drove a minesweeper onto a reef for
 just this reason. Also note the vector chart plotters will
 lose major details when zoomed out, including entire
 islands. This resulted in a multiple fatality in California
 recently. 
    
    
 
 Joe Della Barba
 
 
 Coquina 
 C&C 35 MK I 
 
 
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
 On Behalf Of Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List
 
 Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:59 AM
 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation 
 
 
    
 I used C-Map on Standard Horizon
 chartplotter and where ever I have sailed they where
 accurate to the foot.
  
    
 Yanni Boatless in
 Ontario 
 Not for long… 
    
 92 Lebaron 3.0
 convertible 
 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo
 convertible 
 07 Yamaha Straotoliner
 S 
 SCRC 011059 
 SRO 26-6483 
    
 TURBO!!!!!cause bottles are for
 babies and superchargers blow!!! 
 Which would you rather have, go
 fast goodies or shiny shoes? 
 Your feet may look good but if
 your engine blows you ain't going nowhere 
    
    
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
 On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour via CnC-List
 
 Sent: November 30, 2014 10:52 AM
 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;
 Kevin Driscoll
 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation 
 
   
 Just because charts are digital
 doesn't mean they are accurate.
  
 Many digital charts are based on
 soundings that may literally be hundreds of years old and
 would certainly predate GPS.
  
 I was in Panama this summer and my
 Navionics gold charts would have had me drive over a bunch
 of reefs if I had let them.   (I used paper charts from
 the cruising guide which were spot on)
  
 I'm not sure what the chart
 accuracy is in that part of the world,  but if there was
 any question of dodgy charts,  the race committee ought to
 have given that area a wide berth.   It would have been
 simple to set up a waypoint well offshore
  in deep water.   Putting people at risk that way is
 irresponsible,  imo.  
 Cheers 
 
 Colin  
 
 On Nov
 29, 2014 10:57 PM, "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List"
 <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
 wrote: 
 
 I heard it
 was a classic case of being too far zoomed out on the chart
 plotter. At least that's what the Volvo website alluded
 to.
  
 
 On Sat,
 Nov 29, 2014, 12:03 PM Don Newman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
 wrote: 
 
 They were
 hit by Cyclone Suzie.
 
 Reported grounded Cargo Carajos Shoals, Mauritius 12 hours
 later.
 
 
 
 
 
 Don Newman
 
 905 547 1750
 
 
 
 > On Nov 29, 2014, at 13:58, Brent Driedger via CnC-List
 <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
 wrote:
 
 >
 
 > Sorry, this isn't C&C specific but important to
 our sport. Currently Team Vestas Wind is aground and
 planning to abandon ship. Is there any reason why a
 professionally crewed yacht with the latest and greatest nav
 equipment and shore assistance would come
  to this? Short of uncharted reefs but that doesn't
 sound to likely.
 
 > I'm curious to know what underwater unknowns
 you've come across while offshore.
 
 >
 
 > Cheers
 
 > Brent Driedger
 
 > 27-5
 
 > Lake Winnipeg
 
 >
 
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