Dwight,

 

I won't debate the temptation or value of a replacement engine. This is not
so much a technical discussion as it is a discussion of the balance between
cost, aggravation and quality of life (aboard).

 

Danny,

 

I will say that my 1974 A-4 runs very reliably with a couple upgrades
(electronic ignition and electric fuel pump)

 

My point is that you have options. If the cost of a replacement engine makes
that an impractical option I'm sure you can get the A-4 running reliably. I
don't know your mechanical acumen, experience, tenacity or courage so it is
hard for me to make a lot of recommendations. 

 

With what I have read it sounds like you need to go back to some basics.
When a motor fine for 3 hours under load without a problem you have
eliminated a lot of potential problems like heat, vapor lock and fuel
supply, Your ignition system could be suspect (low or high voltage). Also,
quality of gas entering the carb can change over time.  Intermittent
problems like what you are describing sometimes require a great deal of
discipline to find. Be sure to make only one change at a time to be sure you
don't compound the problem and make it difficult to determine what you did
that changed the symptom. Sometimes another set of eyes can be valuable.
Sorry I can't be more specific. 

 

Skip

 

P. S. Don't be distracted by dirty looking plugs on these motors after a few
hours of run time. Unless that plug is fouled and not firing it is not your
problem.   

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 5:34 PM
To: 'Danny Haughey'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!

 

Think about repowering with a reliable diesel.OK you A4 enthusiasts hit me
hard.but if he likes the feel of sail his Viking and I know that feel is
good, just might be worth a new engine

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny
Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: August 13, 2014 12:33 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!

 

Alright, the saga continues.

We went for a sea trial Sunday after the changes, i.e. Vent line cleared,
filters changed, clamps tightened.  The engine ran great all the way to
Cuttyhunk. I probably ran it about 3 hours. Two of those hours I ran it a
little harder than I normally do after having read Don M's reasons for
having black sooty spark plugs. I thought my problems were solved.

On our way home from cuttyhunk, We motored out the harbor and decided that,
because the wind was a little light, we would motor home to run the engine
some more. 50 minutes into our ride home, the same thing, only a bit slower.
the whole, slow, stall happened over maybe a minute or two. Some sputter,
then run normal, a little more sputter, then normal and then a slow stall.

We then sailed home and into the mooring field. This is actually a benefit
of the engine troubles, I've been a bit intimidated about sailing onto the
mouth of the river due to the current and very tight channel flanked by
shoals and some pretty ominous looking rocks. I've now had to sail into the
harbor twice over this last weekend. At one point we were probably doing 4
or 4.5knts through the water but only 1 to 1.5knts over the ground fighting
that current. On one side of the boat it a big, rocky cliff and the other
shoal. it was a little adrenalin pumping! Anyway, the approach to our
mooring was dead, head to wind, along with the current in the same
direction, I lost forward motion under sail and started the engine. She
started right up and we motored onto the mooring without incident.

So, safely moored, I pulled the vent tube, it was clear. I then went below
and pulled a spark plug and it was all black and sooty again after maybe 4
hours running time.

I used the Moyer rebuild kit on the carb that is on there now. I'm not sure
but, I think I changed the main jet to the moyer recomended one at that
time. I think it came with the rebuild kit.

My earlier idling issues seemed to have been solved by swapping out the carb
that came with the exchange engine for the one I rebuilt off the original
engine and had just sitting around as a spare. I think what I would like to
do now is, clean up the carb that came with the exchange engine. and swap
them back out. I'll then replace the plugs and run it some more. Unless you
guys think I should maybe try another path forward.

Danny

 

P.S.  Cuttyhunk was Amazing!

 

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