I cannot find the Standard Horizon products on the binnacle site; (I selected the US button when first getting on the site); is it for Canada only? Thanks
Richard 1985 37 CB Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -----Original Message----- From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Thu, Feb 20, 2014 8:35 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software Rich, I was under the impression that one had to buy chart chips to use the Standard Horizon. Is that not true? Roger, you're on Lake Ontario. It sounds like the charts that come pre-installed are fine? Steve On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote: I have had SH chart plotters ever since the first monochrome unit hit the market. I consider them to be excellent value for the $$. I generally put them up for sale before they die and buy the latest model. Mine is installed along with my 23 year old Furuno radar in a small piece of cabinetry I built inside the aft cabin. I can see them from the helm and the numerical SOG, COG, BTW and DTW is repeated at a now obsolete Raymarine Raydata instrument on the binnacle. Works fine for me. I don't like using laptops on board for navigation as they use way more power than dedicated purpose built chart plotters and, while I have an iPad and similar devices, the reliability and availability of 12v installed gear makes that the gear of choice for me. I do work part time for The Binnacle and the Boat Show is on this week. Good pricing on all our electronics. Check the web. Damn. I'm shameless!! Rich Knowles INDIGO LF38 Halifax NS Land of the Interminable Winter. On Feb 20, 2014, at 7:37, "Roger Ware" <w...@qed.econ.queensu.ca> wrote: Rich, I bought one of these at that price, and it is waiting for installation in the Spring. I had one before, they are excellent units. And BTW – they have preinstalled chart data, so gone is the era when you have to get ripped off buying a $300 chart chip as well as the GPS. Don’t get me wrong, I love the iPad, but it doesn’t do everything. Roger, Kingston From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles Sent: February-19-14 11:57 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software A Standard Horizon CP190i is available for less than $400, is waterproof and very reliable. See binnacle.com. Rich On Feb 19, 2014, at 11:53, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> wrote: The problem with an expensive helm mounted chart plotter is that it'll be old news in a few years. I'm not keen on spending ~$1500 or more on a chart plotter that will be "old tech" a few years from now. The iPad does so much more than navigation and is half the price. Sure, you can't read it easily in sunlight and it's not waterproof .. I can buy two iPads for the price of a raymarine plotter though. And I can take the iPad home and do all sorts of other things with it (primarily reading sailing magazines with Zinio) but I digress... I'de like to have a plotter, or some kind of multi-display unit at the helm but the prices on them aren't justified in my opinion. I am making the same thing using OpenCPN, a laptop and likely the Standard Horizon GX2200 for GPS and AIS info for the laptop. I already have the laptop, OpenCPN is free (and good!) so I'll only be spending the $350 on the AIS/GPS capable VHF radio.... vs $1500 for the same functionality at the helm? I can't justify that. If the technology was more modular, ie; the multidisplay had proper buttons and was really *JUST* a display and interface I'de be more interested. $1500 is a lot to spend on what is essentially a touch screen monitor .. except it's not is it? It's a raymarine/garmin/sh whizbang that isn't upgradable and will essentially suck compared to the new stuff in 5 years. Oh yeah,and charts are really expensive too. I happily paid $50 for navionics with charts for all of North America!!! Charts that get updated! Give me a waterproof, sun viewable iPad type device that uses open protocols that i can mount at the helm and I'de gladly spend $1500 on it. All I need is a display and an interface (buttons and touch, but don't take my buttons away). A computer is a computer is a computer.... There are nice plotters that I would like to have, it's just a question of value for the money. My boat bucks are needed elsewhere. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Roger Ware <w...@qed.econ.queensu.ca> wrote: I have an iPad with Navionics but still find some shortcomings (a) the software doesn’t do very much except tell you where you are (b) the iPad is not sunlight readable and (c) not waterproof. I am a bit surprised by the level of enthusiasm among this expert group - surely a purpose built helm mounted chartplotter still dominates? Cheers, Roger Ware Kingston, Ontario Waiting for Spring, or at least a break in this miserable Winter From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton Sent: February-19-14 9:50 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software On deliveries I use every piece of equipment available. On my own boat, I have radar and an old plotter. On both the iPad is my go-to nav unit. On my boat, when I'm anchored and in my bunk I can instantly check whether I'm dragging with a glance at my iPad. On deliveries, when I'm off watch, I can check on what course and speed the watch on deck is able to maintain. I also carry a very basic hand-held GPS as back up and almost all boats I get on have at least a hard-wired GPS aboard and most have a plotter. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Richard N. Bush <bushma...@aol.com> wrote: Andrew, I note your comment about using the ipad for navigation; do you also use some type of MPS or chartplotter on your personal boat? and if so, how is it used in conjunction with the ipad? On deliveries, do you use the boat's navigation equipment? Or just your personal ipad? Thanks Richard 1985 37 CB (sunshine and 60 degrees-snow is melting!) Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 19, 2014 9:17 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software I use iNavX on my ipad and haven't actually pulled out a paper chart in more than two years (15,000 miles). I still carry the paper charts but haven't used 'em. It's the only plotter I use on my boat. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Nonpareil Racing <t...@nonpareilracing.com> wrote: Steve et al, Have you considered using an ipad with Navionics or another brand of software? 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