Thanks Rick, I knew I was posting that for a reason! Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > A word of caution about your process: > > > > The Quaker City Yacht Club in Phiiy (where I used to keep my 25) has a jib > crane next to a well where members unstep masts before winter storage or > for servicing. > > > > One year we had attached the sling to the mast of the 25 and taken up > tension on the crane, but had only reduced the tension on the shrouds and > stays slightly. A big power boat charged by the club, creating a large > wake. The effect of the wave action in the well was to transfer a large > part of the weight of the boat to the crane, and the crane bent. It was > designed for a few hundred pounds of weight from a mast, not for a couple > of thousand pounds of weight from the boat. > > > > After that experience, my process was: > > > > 1) Disconnect the wiring > > 2) remove cotter rings on the toggle pins at the bottom of shrouds > and stays > > 3) Attach the sling loosely (just to sort of stabilize the mast > during step 4) > > 4) Quickly loosed all the shroud and stay turnbuckles to max > extension (all your help should be involved to get this done quickly) > > 5) Snug up the sling > > 6) Immediately pull the toggles to release the shrouds and stays > > 7) Take up on the crane to lift the mast, and have someone on the > bottom to help swing horizontally and move it to the sawhorses on shore > > I also found it to be a good practice to have a long line attached to the > sling, so someone on shore can help to move the mast and to help position > if. > > > > Rick Brass > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan > Plavsa > *Sent:* Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:44 AM > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List unstepping mast > > > > At our club and most around here we have to step/unstep every season for > winter storage. I did the 32 for the first time this year (having kept it > at a mast-up yard last winter) with just me, my girlfriend, and another > friend on the crane. Wasn't ideal, but we did it without any danger to > ourselves or the boat. I've helped others at our club with their smaller > boats but never a keel stepped mast as big as mine. The 32 is the biggest > boat at our club .. yeah, I'm *that* guy. > > > > The following is just the way I do it, not necessarily the best way. I'm > all ears if anyone has recommendations. > > > > - Set the sling under the spreaders and put a bit of tension on it. > > - Start loosening the turnbuckles, slowly, bit by bit side to side to keep > the mast straight. There's a point where you loosen the rig enough that the > crane starts to be the thing holding the mast up, hopefully the person > operating the crane is paying attention. The mast will move around, you can > see that in Bill's video actually. It's a little alarming once the tension > is off the rig because it'll move around as the boat moves. Trust the > crane. Being keel stepped this is less alarming than with a deck stepped > mast. > > - Once the crane is supporting the mast you can disconnect the > shrouds/stays. I always undo the forestay last but that's just me, not sure > if that's correct. > > - You are keel stepped I believe...make sure all your wiring is > disconnected down below(step one actually). Someone should be at the base > of the mast (deck level, not below) helping to guide it up and more > importantly, as someone mentioned, to keep it from swinging end over once > clear of the deck. > > - Slowly raise the mast out of the step. Once it clears the deck that > person holding the mast starts taking it forward (or aft, whatever works) > as the crane operator lowers it. One person on the forestay/furler as > someone mentioned. > > > > Three is enough but if you don't know what you're doing hang around and > watch the experienced people doing it for a while. It's not rocket surgery > and in my opinion $400 is boat bucks better used elsewhere. Hopefully you > can find some experienced helpers that'll work for beer. > > > > Words of advice: > > Cotter pins, turnbuckles and tools sink really fast, careful with those. > > > > Steve > > Suhana, C&C 32 > > Toronto > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:39 AM, David Folsom <dfolsom...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Thank you everyone for the great advice > > I knew thus would be the best place to ask > > > > the video was great > > > > Frank, I am not in a hurry and if you are coming to San Diego it would be > great to meet you > > > > I am working with a rigger here in San Diego and using the yacht club > would let me pull the mast right next to where I am going to work on it, > rather than having to move the mast half mile down a busy street > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Dave Folsom > > > > On Wednesday, January 8, 2014, Frank wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > > > I have a C&C 38 LF. > > > > I have stepped my mast several times. > > > > I will be in San Diego in a week or so, if you can wait that long to step > your mast, I will look at your set-up and give you my opinion about what > you are planning to do. > > > > Frank Noragon > > S/V Cool Change > > C&C LF38, S/N 001 > > Rose City Yacht Club > > Portland, Oregon > > RVing in San Francisco, headed South) > > > > *From:* David Folsom > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2014 8:00 AM > > *To:* cnc-list > > *Subject:* Stus-List unstepping mast > > > > Hi fellow C&C owners. > > I am getting ready to replace some rigging on my boat and the first step > will be un-stepping the mast. Since I am in San Diego, we don't pull the > boat for the winter, and I have no experience with un-stepping the mast. I > have a C&C 36. > > I have access to a launching crane at San Diego Yacht Club, which is about > 35 feet above the water at low tide. > > I am hoping some of the other members on this list can help me determine > if it is worth trying to do this myself (with help) or whether I should > just take the boat to a yard and pay them $200 to un-step (and another $200 > to re-step) > > thanks > > Dave Folsom > > Rebel Maid 1981 C&C 36 > San Diego > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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