Happy holidays Barbara, What was confusing with old Barient Winches is that the umber didn't reflect their power ration. When I replaced my old Barient, I found that the equivalent to the 22 was the 40s. That is, when using a 10 inch long handle, if you put a 10 lbs pressure on the handle, the winch will pull 40 times that amount on the line: 400 pounds of tension.
So, the first question is what size. For my C&C 30 Mk1, I purchased a pair of Andersen 40 ST. Do do the job well and I don't have to pull that hard. However, they are a bit too hard for my wife and perhaps the next size would have been better for her. For a 33, I would consider the next size above 40. I have a pair of Andersen winches. Very light, similar weight to aluminum winches, but all stainless steel. They got tested well on the ocean and did very well. You said only the Lewmar has a base of 6 5/8". Well, the drum base for the Andersen 46ST is 7 1/8". That should do it. I wouldn't worry about filling the holes. Easy to do and others made good suggestions. The most important things are not the holes but the backing. I've cut disks roughly of the same size as the base in 14" phenolic with heavy washers. Phenolic is a very strong material. Old C&C sheet blocks were made in that material. Now 40 years after, mine still work perfectly. Actually, I think that when I will sell the boat, I'l probably buy new blocks for the boat to keep the old ones. Final suggestion: whatever winch you buy, order a pack of spare spring at the same time. They should always be on board and never dismantle a winch without spare supply of spring. Antoine (C&C 30 Cousin) Le 2013-12-27 à 08:58, Barbara L. Hickson a écrit : > Happy holidays, all! > Santa brought me new self tailing winches and I need some advice. The PO > replaced the original Barient 26s with Barient 28s, moving the 26s to the > back to be used for spin sheets. > The base diameter of the 28s is 8" and the hole diameter is 6 3/8". > I think replacing them with Lewmar EVO 45s is the only way to go: the 45s are > the only size whose base at 6 5/8" is big enough to cover the previous hole > diameter of 6 3/8". > I don't want to leave an ugly ring of "we replaced our winches" left on the > coaming but I think after removing the bedding compound and polishing the > exposed gelcoat, the area outside the base of the new winches should look > pretty good. I have no illusions that it will match exactly. Is my thinking > wrong on this? I really don't want to go to the expense and trouble to have > anything look like crap. AND I don't think it is worth the expense and > trouble to put Lewmar 50s on a 33' boat. That's just crazy. > Secondly, the PO did not fill the first bolt holes when he put his new > winches on. Now there will be 2 sets of bolt holes to be epoxied. Is this > going to be a structural problem for the new winches? I am planning to use an > aluminum backing plate for the new ones. I've read on forums of about 4-6 yrs > ago that finding the exact same hole pattern was apparently the preferred way > to go, and listers from this forum waited over a year to find Barient 28STs > on Ebay. In the last 2-4 yrs however, opinions seem to be that hole patterns > should not be that much of a consideration. Should I plan on doing more than > just epoxying the holes or do I need matting on the underside or should I > wait eons for Ebay to produce a pair of Barient 28ST? There is one on there > now asking $1500 and it looks like s!@#. > Lastly, IMO I think we should be using the size 40 winches. Is there any way > we can get away with using these and not sacrifice any structural integrity > or have the exposed finish look like crap and see all the epoxy-filled holes? > New deck paint is pretty much out of the question; she's in very good shape. > Thoughts, advice and recommendations please? Thanks for any help, > Barbara Hickson Fellers > Flight Risk, 33-1 > Charleston, SC > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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