I have Lewmar ST 48's and they are definitely not oversize for the boat. If
I could have sourced 52's at the same discount I would have gone for those.
Rich's 65's sound even better.


On 27 December 2013 13:02, Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Remember, the highest loads occur with the smallest headsails.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Sylvain Laplante <sylvain_lapla...@yahoo.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Yes, Lewmar covers that in their Technical Guide.
>
> On their table they mention that if you have fractional rig you should go
> with the square area of the sail. For masthead rig they recommend to match
> with the length of the boat.
>
> For  a EVO ST40 used for genoa sheets here is what they recommend:
>
> Max of 300sq/ft  ( fractional  rig ) or 33 foot length boat ( mast head
> rig ). I assume this for a #1 genoa.
>
> Best size for a ST40 on a masthead rig is 31-34 feet , good between 34-36.
>
> SWL is 1700lb and sheets up to 1/2 in.
>
> At least they provide all the info to make a good choice and how to
> properly set the orientation and angle.
>
> Good things to know since we do it only once every 25 years :-)
>
>
> Sylvain
> C&C27MkIII
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca>
> *To:* cnc-list Cnc-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 27, 2013 1:51 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Needing the brain trust-new winch installation,
> old hole filling, etc.
>
> I replaced the original Barient 28's on my LF38 with a pair of last
> generation Lewmar 65's that I bought from a guy who replaced them with
> electric winches. Yes they are a bit big, but they fit, are easy on the
> crew, and I don't have to look at non-factory patch jobs made necessary by
> undersized winches. My 28's went to a J29. As Jim notes, no one on either
> boat has ever complained about the oversize winches.
>
> I suggest the 30's on the Beneteau 39, although they may well be the best
> thing on the boat, may be on the small end of the acceptable scale. Many of
> the Beneteau's have smaller rigs and headsails than similar length C&C's,
> so they may be fine.
>
> Choices, choices.
>
> Rich Knowles
> INDIGO LF38
> Halifax, NS.
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> With all due respect to Rich, I don't think you need the 50s.  I sail on a
> Benne 39 with Lewmar 30s! They are the best thing on the boat. Epoxy the
> holes, and if necessary, get a piece of teak or starboard and cut it in a
> circle to go under the winch to cover the space occupied by the prior winch.
>
> Joel
> 35/3
> Annapolis.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote:
>
> My $ .02:  Bigger is better. Go for the 50's. You'll be pleased you did.
> Once you ream out and epoxy the holes, you should have no strength issues
> whatsoever.
>
> Rich
>
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 9:58, "Barbara L. Hickson" <blhick...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Happy holidays, all!
> Santa brought me new self tailing winches and I need some advice.  The PO
> replaced the original Barient 26s with Barient 28s, moving the 26s to the
> back to be used for spin sheets.
> The base diameter of the 28s is 8" and the hole diameter is 6 3/8".
> I think replacing them with Lewmar EVO 45s is the only way to go: the 45s
> are the only size whose base at 6 5/8" is big enough to cover the previous
> hole diameter of 6 3/8".
> I don't want to leave an ugly ring of "we replaced our winches" left on
> the coaming but I think after removing the bedding compound and polishing
> the exposed gelcoat, the area outside the base of the new winches should
> look pretty good. I have no illusions that it will match exactly.   Is my
> thinking wrong on this? I really don't want to go to the expense and
> trouble to have anything look like crap. AND I don't think it is worth the
> expense and trouble to put Lewmar 50s on a 33' boat. That's just crazy.
> Secondly, the PO did not fill the first bolt holes when he put his new
> winches on.  Now there will be 2 sets of bolt holes to be epoxied.  Is this
> going to be a structural problem for the new winches? I am planning to use
> an aluminum backing plate for the new ones. I've read on forums of about
> 4-6 yrs ago that finding the exact same hole pattern was apparently the
> preferred way to go, and listers from this forum waited over a year to find
> Barient 28STs on Ebay.  In the last 2-4 yrs however, opinions seem to be
> that hole patterns should not be that much of a consideration.  Should I
> plan on doing more than just epoxying the holes or do I need matting on the
> underside or should I wait eons for Ebay to produce a pair of Barient 28ST?
> There is one on there now asking $1500 and it looks like s!@#.
> Lastly, IMO I think we should be using the size 40 winches.  Is there any
> way we can get away with using these and not sacrifice any structural
> integrity or have the exposed finish look like crap and see all the
> epoxy-filled holes?   New deck paint is pretty much out of the question;
> she's in very good shape.
> Thoughts, advice and recommendations please? Thanks for any help,
> Barbara Hickson Fellers
> *Flight Risk*, 33-1
> Charleston, SC
>
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