I have never heard anyone complain that their winches were too big.

One trick to fill the old holes is to tape off the bottoms, then drip
enough 5-minute epoxy in to cover the bottom of the hole. This kicks off
very quickly and seals the hole so the later slow-cure epoxies don't drip
through.


On 27 December 2013 08:41, Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Barbara,
>
> Some comments.  First, polish the area with AquaBuff 2000 (preferred) or
> 3M Finesse-It and a high speed DA polisher using lots of water.  Go slowly
> otherwise you'll remove all the gelcoat.  If you start to see structure
> through the gelcoat, STOP!
>
> Tape the underside of the holes and place drop clothes under the area.
>  You may think you've got the undersides taped but epoxy will find a way to
> drip.
>
> Using a syringe, inject neat epoxy into the holes then remove it.  This
> will coat the sides of the holes.  Next fill the holes with epoxy thickened
> with microfibers for strength.  Thickened epoxy does not penetrate into the
> core well.  That's why you coat it with neat epoxy.
>
> If the gelcoat didn't polish out well and you're left with an unsightly
> exposed ring, an option would be to paint the area with a contrasting paint
> or gelcoat it.  If you decide to do this, consider applying the tape then
> using the old winch bases as a pattern to cut the tape.  You'll end up with
> a nice circular apron around the bases of the new winches.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Barbara L. Hickson <blhick...@yahoo.com>
> *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 27, 2013 7:58 AM
> *Subject:* Stus-List Needing the brain trust-new winch installation, old
> hole filling, etc.
>
> Happy holidays, all!
> Santa brought me new self tailing winches and I need some advice.  The PO
> replaced the original Barient 26s with Barient 28s, moving the 26s to the
> back to be used for spin sheets.
> The base diameter of the 28s is 8" and the hole diameter is 6 3/8".
> I think replacing them with Lewmar EVO 45s is the only way to go: the 45s
> are the only size whose base at 6 5/8" is big enough to cover the previous
> hole diameter of 6 3/8".
> I don't want to leave an ugly ring of "we replaced our winches" left on
> the coaming but I think after removing the bedding compound and polishing
> the exposed gelcoat, the area outside the base of the new winches should
> look pretty good. I have no illusions that it will match exactly.   Is my
> thinking wrong on this? I really don't want to go to the expense and
> trouble to have anything look like crap. AND I don't think it is worth the
> expense and trouble to put Lewmar 50s on a 33' boat. That's just crazy.
> Secondly, the PO did not fill the first bolt holes when he put his new
> winches on.  Now there will be 2 sets of bolt holes to be epoxied.  Is this
> going to be a structural problem for the new winches? I am planning to use
> an aluminum backing plate for the new ones. I've read on forums of about
> 4-6 yrs ago that finding the exact same hole pattern was apparently the
> preferred way to go, and listers from this forum waited over a year to find
> Barient 28STs on Ebay.  In the last 2-4 yrs however, opinions seem to be
> that hole patterns should not be that much of a consideration.  Should I
> plan on doing more than just epoxying the holes or do I need matting on the
> underside or should I wait eons for Ebay to produce a pair of Barient 28ST?
> There is one on there now asking $1500 and it looks like s!@#.
> Lastly, IMO I think we should be using the size 40 winches.  Is there any
> way we can get away with using these and not sacrifice any structural
> integrity or have the exposed finish look like crap and see all the
> epoxy-filled holes?   New deck paint is pretty much out of the question;
> she's in very good shape.
> Thoughts, advice and recommendations please? Thanks for any help,
> Barbara Hickson Fellers
> *Flight Risk*, 33-1
> Charleston, SC
>
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