Stevan,
You have my sympathy for sure!
I know that I'll have to pay the HST on my new boat - despite the fact that appropriate taxes were paid when it was bought 27 yrs ago.
The concept of sales tax is "supposed" to be on new items - as a matter of fact the HST is specifically set up so that the seller gets a rebate on the HST they paid already so the tax is only collected once.

BUT we're talking about gov't here!  And about money!  It's like flies to s**t!
This is my first experience with paying the HST on a boat - but they do the same thing with cars here -- we pay the HST on a new, or used, vehicle ---- except (and this I don't understand) if you buy a new car from a dealer and sell them your old car, then you only pay the HST on the difference!
But if you buy yourself a new car and sell your old car privately then you can't get the HST rebate on the old vehicle value!

Bastards!

Personally I may note my frustration with the unfair rules by waiting until they ask for the tax in a couple years!

Mark
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On 04/12/2013 10:10 AM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:
Thanks for the the replies all. I'm a little surprised at the tone of some of them. To clarify, I wasn't asking for advice on how to avoid paying. I had just received the letter and more than anything I was looking for some healthy support from my fellow listers. Maybe there's an appeal process that could buy me some time or something. Fine, maybe I was whining, I don't think it's the first time this list has seen a despairing email, boat ownership is full of unhappy surprises. I do think that I live in the best country in the world and I'm happy to pay for the privilege. Unlike so many of my fellow Torontonians, I don't prioritize "lower taxes" over having a capable mayor that _doesn't_ smoke crack. Around here the message lately is that Torontonians will vote in a gerbil as long as it saves them a buck on taxes. But I digress...

Thanks for the supportive replies and I'm glad I gave some of you the opportunity to exercise your wagging finger. Getting hit with a "send us a bunch of money or else" letter right before christmas just sucks. I was going to go through that long rum thread and send you all a mickey of your favourite for Christmas but now you're all getting a lump of virtual coal :P

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto



On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:20 AM, <sam.c.sal...@gmail.com> wrote:
The no tax is because we’re stinking rich with oil revenue!

sam :-)

From: Rich Knowles
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:24 PM
To: David Donnelly, cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Is there sailing water in Alberta? That might account for no tax. :)

Rich

On Dec 3, 2013, at 21:05, David Donnelly <da...@gnuattitude.ca> wrote:

I think this varies by province and some require certain items such as boats are taxed each time they change hands. BC  I know has this same arrangement.

Glad I live in Alberta we aren't subject to this kind of tax on boats. Only GST if bought new.

If you bought from a broker I don't understand why they aren't responsible to collect and remit this tax.

Dave
C&C 26 Mistress


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-------- Original message --------
From: dwight <dwight...@gmail.com>
Date: 12-03-2013 5:45 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Canadians - retail sales tax used boat


You owe the tax, even if they got you 4 years after you bought the boat, if
you can't prove that you paid tax they got you, I have a friend who was
asked last year by the NS gov't to prove that he paid the tax on his boat
that he bought 14 years ago...save your receipts

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan
Plavsa
Sent: December 3, 2013 5:57 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Canadians - retail sales tax used boat

Hi All.

I bought the 32 two years ago, literally two years ago. I just got a letter
from the ministry of finance asking for 13% of the purchase price. Do they
expect me to hold onto that money for two years? is there no kind of "right
to a speedy trial" clause except instead of trial something like "right to a
speedy robbery". ?
I don't duck out of paying my fair share, I don't circumvent the rules but
the government already collected sales tax on this boat! 33 years ago!
So they make me wait two years and now they want payment within 60 days or
..

"If this information is not received within 60 days of the mailing date, an
estimated assessment with interest compounded DAILY at the current rate from
the date of purchase, may be issued"

yeah, that sounds reasonable

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


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