Well said, Mike!

Rich

> On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:29, "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com> wrote:
> 
> Steve
>  
> Call them.  There likely is a process where you can take some time to pay.  I 
> once received a letter from CRA giving me 30 days to pay $18000.  I called 
> and they were able to extend it up to one year.  Letters from CRA demanding 
> payment do not make you feel very nice.  Would not want to wish that on 
> anyone.
>  
> ... and yes.  Pretty much everyone on this list knows that sales tax is due 
> on purchase of a boat in their own province if that rule applies.  I know 
> that many on private sale get away with not doing it but when you licenese 
> the boat you start a paper trail where it should be paid.  So basically only 
> unlicensed boats or boats with less than 10 horsepower get away with it.
>  
> The good news is that our boats are really cheap to buy.   Most of us are in 
> fact sailing boats that would be well in excess of $100,000 to replace with a 
> like boat that is new.  We are enjoying other people's formerly new boats at 
> a fraction of the cost.  We are very lucky that these boats have been built 
> so well that they can last long enough to depreciate to affordability.  
> Imagine paying the tax on  a new 32 ft boat.  That would really hurt! 
>  
> Mike
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan 
> Plavsa
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:10 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Canadians - retail sales tax used boat
> 
> Thanks for the the replies all. I'm a little surprised at the tone  of some 
> of them. To clarify, I wasn't asking for advice on how to avoid paying. I had 
> just received the letter and more than anything I was looking for some 
> healthy support from my fellow listers. Maybe there's an appeal process that 
> could buy me some time or something. Fine, maybe I was whining, I don't think 
> it's the first time this list has seen a despairing email, boat ownership is 
> full of unhappy surprises. I do think that I live in the best country in the 
> world and I'm happy to pay for the privilege. Unlike so many of my fellow 
> Torontonians, I don't prioritize "lower taxes" over having a capable mayor 
> that _doesn't_ smoke crack. Around here the message lately is that 
> Torontonians will vote in a gerbil as long as it saves them a buck on taxes. 
> But I digress...
> 
> Thanks for the supportive replies and I'm glad I gave some of you the 
> opportunity to exercise your wagging finger. Getting hit with a "send us a 
> bunch of money or else" letter right before christmas just sucks. I was going 
> to go through that long rum thread and send you all a mickey of your 
> favourite for Christmas but now you're all getting a lump of virtual coal :P
> 
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:20 AM, <sam.c.sal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The no tax is because we’re stinking rich with oil revenue!
>> 
>> sam :-)
>> 
>> From: Rich Knowles
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:24 PM
>> To: David Donnelly, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> 
>> Is there sailing water in Alberta? That might account for no tax. :)
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2013, at 21:05, David Donnelly <da...@gnuattitude.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> I think this varies by province and some require certain items such as boats 
>> are taxed each time they change hands. BC  I know has this same arrangement.
>> 
>> Glad I live in Alberta we aren't subject to this kind of tax on boats.      
>> Only GST if bought new.
>> 
>> If you bought from a broker I don't understand why they aren't responsible 
>> to collect and remit this tax.
>> 
>> Dave
>> C&C 26 Mistress
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: dwight <dwight...@gmail.com> 
>> Date: 12-03-2013 5:45 PM (GMT-07:00) 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Canadians - retail sales tax used boat 
>> 
>> 
>> You owe the tax, even if they got you 4 years after you bought the boat, if
>> you can't prove that you paid tax they got you, I have a friend who was
>> asked last year by the NS gov't to prove that he paid the tax on his boat
>> that he bought 14 years ago...save your receipts
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan
>> Plavsa
>> Sent: December 3, 2013 5:57 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Canadians - retail sales tax used boat
>> 
>> Hi All.
>> 
>> I bought the 32 two years ago, literally two years ago. I just got a letter
>> from the ministry of finance asking for 13% of the purchase price. Do they
>> expect me to hold onto that money for two years? is there no kind of "right
>> to a speedy trial" clause except instead of trial something like "right to a
>> speedy robbery". ?
>> I don't duck out of paying my fair share, I don't circumvent the rules but
>> the government already collected sales tax on this boat! 33 years ago!
>> So they make me wait two years and now they want payment within 60 days or
>> ..
>> 
>> "If this information is not received within 60 days of the mailing date, an
>> estimated assessment with interest      compounded DAILY at the current rate 
>> from
>> the date of purchase, may be issued"
>> 
>> yeah, that sounds reasonable
>> 
>> Steve
>> Suhana, C&C 32
>> Toronto
>> 
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