Or, think of the happiness you get when you sell the old boat and buy the 
new...it is a double your happiness event!!!

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From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bigger Boat Question
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 08:13:22 -0400


I can't really help with your decision, but I would like to correct the 
"happiest day" nonsense. I've rarely been more heartbroken than when I watched 
someone else leave with my much-loved boat. In addition to Peregrine, I still 
have a 30-foot daysailer I can't bear to part with because she's such an 
exquisite boat to sail and look at and she's been a huge part of my life for 18 
years.AndyC&C 40Peregrine

Andrew Burton61 W NarragansettNewport, RI USA    02840 
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260
On May 29, 2013, at 0:29, Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net> wrote:

Hi Mark,

 As you already know there is no simple answer. 

But here are the dimension for the perfect boat:Cocktails for 6Dinner for 
4Sleeps 2Seriously, 30' is ideal for light sailing with a weekend & a bit away. 
Bigger gets more toys tolerated and comfort underway (especially if you 
actually go sailing if it's windy). For 20 grand your best bet is the one that 
has been maintained (vs say, size weighted consideration) so to get the best 
value. Good sails can be the difference in the bargain... only 3 new cruising 
sails are a minimum 6 grand from the orient.

 Personally I went from a 60' cruising cutter to a 35 mk-1 and love her. 
However I have a 40' motor-sailor sitting in the back yard awaiting my 
semi-retirement where I can spend 4 5 months aboard, cruising the west coast.

 Your mileage may vary. Enjoy the hunt.

         Cheers, Russ 
         Sweet 35 mk-1

 At 09:01 PM 28/05/2013, you wrote:

I'm still looking at boats, reading emails from this list and learning lots.  
Right now I'm sitting back, watching the market, looking to new boats that come 
up, and trying to figure out where I want to end up.  
 Maybe some more experienced listers can offer some thoughts (on or off list).

 I know that everyone has there own criteria - but I'm trying to figure out the 
right boat for me.  My Mirage 24 is quite small - 5ft of headroom (only my 8 yr 
old can stand up), not enough space to sleep 5 (me and 4 kids), lacks an 
enclosed head, no functional galley, noisy and smelly outboard.
 I envision wanting to do some more sailing - little further out of the 
harbour, some overnights (effectively boat camping with the kids), maybe a long 
weekend away with the girlfriend.

 But we've all heard the cracks "2 best days in a boater life - the day he/she 
buys their boat, and the day they sell it", or "A boat is a hole in the water 
you pour money into" - not really encouraging. So, why, if they are so terrible 
does everyone get 2 foot itis?

 Feel free to espouse on why did you end up with the boat you have? Do you wish 
you stayed smaller/cheaper/simpler?
 What would you say to yourself if you could go back and offer advice? Was this 
the best decision ever?  If you could make a change what do you want? A bigger 
galley? Bigger cockpit?

 My temptation was to find a 29-30 foot boat that would work, thinking that 
would last me for years with the kids and still be a manageable size when they 
are off.  Keeping costs reasonable, maintenance manageable and enough boat to 
venture further afield.

 Right now I could buy a local C&C 33 (with and Atomic4), or a local C&C 30 
(diesel), or there are 29's, 30's and 34's within reach - the prices are 
similar.  I plan on climbing aboard a few different boats to get a feel for 
size and space, but I'm trying to figure out what I'm getting into without 
having to learn the painfully hard way!  I'm leaning towards a diesel (only 
because that seems to be common opinion and gas on my current boat has it's 
downsides), wheel steering and something fairly stable (so kids and girlfriend 
aren't barfing over the side -- which I gather eliminates the 29's from the 
list).  Price wise I'd like to stay below $20000.

 I have the cash set aside to buy the boat, but clearly bigger is not always 
better, the maintenance and insidious upkeep costs can add up quickly.  I was 
able to do a quick sand and bottom paint on my M24 in 2.5 hrs.  Assuming the 
cost and workload multiply with the displacement I'm guessing a 30ft (being 
twice the displacement) would be double the effort, a 34ft 3 times the work.  
At what point is it more work and you wish for a smaller/cheaper boat?

 Thanks in advance for the advice,

 Mark

 

 

 

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   Dr. Mark Bodnar
 B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
 Bedford Chiropractic
  www.bedfordchiro.ca
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