Joel, After you get them installed, do you mind if I come check it out some time...I could *always* use an excuse to visit Annapolis.
Might have to stop at APS, Bacon's, Fawcetts, you know...because they are right there... :) -Keith M C&C 35-3 CB Beyond the Sea -----Original Message----- From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 9:51 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting Got my LED spools. Should I attach them to a piece of thin plywood or just stick them to the flourescent fixture after I disconnect it? On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote: Just a quick update on the LEDs. I purchased what I thought were two different colors of the same type of LED strip from eBay. <http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=320968577841> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5M-500CM-3528-LED-SMD-Warm-White-300-leds-Flexible-Lamp-Light-Strip-12V-Car-Moto-/320968577841 http://www.ebay.com/itm/5M-300-LED-flexible-light-strip-3528-SMD-Orange-Amber-WATERPROOF-12V-5-meter-/290886181005 I was concerned with the color because I have found that almost all LEDs have a blueish tint. It makes the light very harsh. Fortunately the warm white do seem to be less blue than normal although I don't think I'll know for sure until they are on the boat. I think the Amber colored ones might end up being better. What I didn't realize was that the first link (warm white) was for a non-waterproof version. They are about 25% of the cost of the waterproof ones but they don't have the rubbery vinyl coating. Just be careful what type you select for your application. Fortunately, I have a use for them indoors so it isn't a loss. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD -- When security matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com On Apr 13, 2013 7:52 AM, "Graham Collins" <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Russ You have the essential difference correct, the larger LED allows more light / area, but at a cost of more power. The larger LEDs are a good choice if you are making something like an LED flashlight where you want to pack the most light into a tight area. The 3528 size is probably the most common size though, which translates into lower cost per lumen to make them. For a yacht, you need to consider how much light you need and how it will show - a strip of densely packed 3528 LEDs will give a more even light than a strip of sparsely packed 5050s. In the case where I have replaced a florescent light with a strip of 3528s, the lights are behind a diffuser and the 3528s are close enough together that it gives a pretty even light, whereas the 5050s would have been visible as a bunch of discreet sources. So an esthetic consideration. The other thing is that the 5050s will generate more heat than the 3528s, and since there is likely no provision made for heatsinking I would expect the 5050s to start burning out before the 3528s. But not a significant issue. I build electronics for a living, and we build LED panels at work for commercial signage, and use 3528s on a grid of about 1" spacing. Customer is very happy with them. 5050s would make the illumination blotchy, we would not want that. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2013-04-12 12:56 PM, Russ & Melody wrote: What are the practical differences between the two? (more LEDs but smaller vs larger LEDs & slightly higher consumption) Can you say if one is clearly better for use on yachts? Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 10:15 AM 11/04/2013, you wrote: This site lists the specs for the 5050 and 3258 type: http://www.ledlightsworld.com/page.html?id=32 <http://www.ledlightsworld.com/page.html?id=32> Steve C&C 32 Toronto On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote: Sorry try this link instead https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yaldRek85bXUzenc&usp=sharing On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote: No not too bad. Especially considering its 5 meters of LED's. The vinyl coating is a little odd. It is tacky. Almost like it is still gooey. Kinda reminds me of the transparent gummy key rings that businesses sometimes give out as advertising. They have a peal and stick backing which is nice but I have little hope will last. A staple gun while probably be the best backup to the adhesive. The real that they come on is surprisingly small. Its hard to believe that there is actually 5 meters there. https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yaldRek85bXUzenc/edit Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD -- When security matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com <http://www.secure-my-email.com> On Apr 11, 2013 10:54 AM, "Tim Sippel" < tim.sip...@rci.rogers.com <mailto:tim.sip...@rci.rogers.com> > wrote: That's not terrible, thanks for the info ! Tim From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:48 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting Just checked the amps for the whole roll. Came out to 1.5amps -- When security matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com <http://www.secure-my-email.com> On Apr 11, 2013 10:14 AM, "Tim Sippel" < tim.sip...@rci.rogers.com <mailto:tim.sip...@rci.rogers.com> > wrote: Does anybody know how many amps these strips draw , it has to be miniscule right ? Tim Sippel 33mkii Matco Toronto <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=250> From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:59 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting The chinese made ebay 5m strips are cuttable at 3" intervals. I'm waiting for mine too. Steve C&C 32 Toronto On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com > wrote: Edd, I'll let you know in a couple weeks. I am hoping they can be cut and spliced like Josh's. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com> wrote: Joel, Can these be cut down? And if so, how do you wire them up? Do you need special connections? The price is great and I do want to replace my fluorescent bulbs. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> On Apr 11, 2013, at 4:02 AM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com > wrote: I bought white and red strips off EBay. http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11401.m1842.l3160/7?euid=049cfa25528a48dab196fe09c311ec7e&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D190810137664%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AL%3AOU%3AUS%3A3160&exe=10013&ext=100026&sojTags=exe=exe,ext=ext $14 each. Worth the gamble. Joel 35/3 Annapolis. 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