Keith, be glad to have you. I probably won't get to them for a couple
of weeks but I will let you know. I was just rummaging around Bacon
yesterday.

Joel Aronson


On Apr 25, 2013, at 5:34 PM, "Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR"
<keith.morgenst...@navy.mil> wrote:

> Joel,
>
> After you get them installed, do you mind if I come check it out some 
> time...I could *always* use an excuse to visit Annapolis.
>
> Might have to stop at APS, Bacon's, Fawcetts, you know...because they are 
> right there... :)
>
> -Keith M
> C&C 35-3 CB
> Beyond the Sea
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 9:51
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting
>
> Got my LED spools.  Should I attach them to a piece of thin plywood or just 
> stick them to the flourescent fixture after I disconnect it?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>    Just a quick update on the LEDs.
>    I purchased what I thought were two different colors of the same type of 
> LED strip from eBay. 
> <http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=320968577841>
>
>    
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5M-500CM-3528-LED-SMD-Warm-White-300-leds-Flexible-Lamp-Light-Strip-12V-Car-Moto-/320968577841
>
>    
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5M-300-LED-flexible-light-strip-3528-SMD-Orange-Amber-WATERPROOF-12V-5-meter-/290886181005
>
>    I was concerned with the color because I have found that almost all LEDs 
> have a blueish tint.  It makes the light very harsh.  Fortunately the warm 
> white do seem to be less blue than normal although I don't think I'll know 
> for sure until they are on the boat.  I think the Amber colored ones might 
> end up being better.  What I didn't realize was that the first link (warm 
> white) was for a non-waterproof version.  They are about 25% of the cost of 
> the waterproof ones but they don't have the rubbery vinyl coating.
>
>    Just be careful what type you select for your application. Fortunately, I 
> have a use for them indoors so it isn't a loss.
>
>    Josh Muckley
>    S/V Sea Hawk
>    1989 C&C 37+
>    Solomons, MD
>
>
>
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>    On Apr 13, 2013 7:52 AM, "Graham Collins" <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
>        Hi Russ
>        You have the essential difference correct, the larger LED allows more 
> light / area, but at a cost of more power.  The larger LEDs are a good choice 
> if you are making something like an LED flashlight where you want to pack the 
> most light into a tight area.  The 3528 size is probably the most common size 
> though, which translates into lower cost per lumen to make them.
>
>        For a yacht, you need to consider how much light you need and how it 
> will show - a strip of densely packed 3528 LEDs will give a  more even light 
> than a strip of sparsely packed 5050s.  In the case where I have replaced a 
> florescent light with a strip of 3528s, the lights are behind a diffuser and 
> the 3528s are close enough together that it gives a pretty even light, 
> whereas the 5050s would have been visible as a bunch of discreet sources.  So 
> an esthetic consideration.
>
>        The other thing is that the 5050s will generate more heat than the 
> 3528s, and since there is likely no provision made for heatsinking I would 
> expect the 5050s to start burning out before the 3528s.  But not a 
> significant issue.
>
>        I build electronics for a living, and we build LED panels at work for 
> commercial signage, and use 3528s on a grid of about 1" spacing.  Customer is 
> very happy with them.  5050s would make the illumination blotchy, we would 
> not want that.
>
>        Graham Collins
>        Secret Plans
>        C&C 35-III #11
>        On 2013-04-12 12:56 PM, Russ & Melody wrote:
>
>
>
>            What are the practical differences between the two? (more LEDs but 
> smaller vs larger LEDs & slightly higher consumption)
>
>            Can you say if one is clearly better for use on yachts?
>
>                     Cheers,  Russ
>                    Sweet 35 mk-1
>
>            At 10:15 AM 11/04/2013, you wrote:
>
>
>                This site lists the specs for the 5050 and 3258 type:
>                http://www.ledlightsworld.com/page.html?id=32 
> <http://www.ledlightsworld.com/page.html?id=32>
>
>                Steve
>                C&C 32
>                Toronto
>
>
>                On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Josh Muckley 
> <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>                    Sorry try this link instead
>
>
>                    
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yaldRek85bXUzenc&usp=sharing
>
>
>
>                    On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Josh Muckley 
> <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>                        No not too bad.  Especially considering its 5 meters 
> of LED's.
>
>
>                        The vinyl coating is a little odd.  It is tacky.  
> Almost like it is still gooey.  Kinda reminds me of the transparent gummy key 
> rings that businesses sometimes give out as advertising.
>
>
>                        They have a peal and stick backing which is nice but I 
> have little hope will last.  A staple gun while probably be the best backup 
> to the adhesive.
>
>
>                        The real that they come on is surprisingly small.  Its 
> hard to believe that there is actually 5 meters there.
>
>
>                        
> https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yaldRek85bXUzenc/edit
>
>
>                        Josh Muckley
>
>                        S/V Sea Hawk
>
>                        1989 C&C 37+
>
>                        Solomons, MD
>
>
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>
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>
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>
>                        On Apr 11, 2013 10:54 AM, "Tim Sippel" < 
> tim.sip...@rci.rogers.com <mailto:tim.sip...@rci.rogers.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
>                            That's not terrible, thanks for the info !
>
>
>
>
>
>                            Tim
>
>
>                            From: CnC-List [ 
> mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] 
> On Behalf Of Josh Muckley
>
>                            Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:48 AM
>
>                            To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
>                            Subject: Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting
>
>
>
>
>
>                            Just checked the amps for the whole roll.  Came 
> out to 1.5amps
>
>
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>                            On Apr 11, 2013 10:14 AM, "Tim Sippel" < 
> tim.sip...@rci.rogers.com <mailto:tim.sip...@rci.rogers.com> > wrote:
>
>
>                            Does anybody know how many amps these strips draw 
> , it has to be miniscule right ?
>
>
>
>
>
>                            Tim Sippel
>
>                            33mkii Matco
>
>                              Toronto 
> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=250>
>
>
>                            From: CnC-List [ 
> mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] 
> On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa
>
>                            Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:59 AM
>
>                            To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
>                            Subject: Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting
>
>
>
>
>
>                            The chinese made ebay 5m strips are cuttable at 3" 
> intervals. I'm waiting for mine too.
>
>
>
>
>
>                            Steve
>
>
>                            C&C 32
>
>
>                            Toronto
>
>
>
>
>
>                            On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Joel Aronson 
> <joel.aron...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>
>                            Edd,
>
>
>
>
>
>                            I'll let you know in a couple weeks.  I am hoping 
> they can be cut and spliced like Josh's.
>
>
>
>
>
>                            Joel
>
>
>                            35/3
>
>
>                            Annapolis
>
>
>
>
>
>                            On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Edd Schillay 
> <e...@schillay.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>                                Joel,
>
>
>
>
>
>                                Can these be cut down? And if so, how do you 
> wire them up? Do you need special connections?
>
>
>
>
>
>                                The price is great and I do want to replace my 
> fluorescent bulbs.
>
>
>
>
>
>                                All the best,
>
>
>
>
>
>                                Edd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                                Edd M. Schillay
>
>
>                                Starship Enterprise
>
>
>                                C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>
>
>                                City Island, NY
>
>
>                                Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website 
> <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>                                On Apr 11, 2013, at 4:02 AM, Joel Aronson 
> <joel.aron...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>                                I bought white and red strips off EBay.
>
>                                
> http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11401.m1842.l3160/7?euid=049cfa25528a48dab196fe09c311ec7e&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D190810137664%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AL%3AOU%3AUS%3A3160&exe=10013&ext=100026&sojTags=exe=exe,ext=ext
>
>
>
>
>
>                                $14 each. Worth the gamble.
>
>                                Joel
>
>
>                                35/3
>
>
>                                Annapolis.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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