That's pretty much what I'm thinking - I'll make an offer, if something big comes up and they don't want to fix it then I'll move on.

Any one know a good surveyor on Long Island? What about cost for a survey for a 30' boat - inc rigging and engine? Boat is currently in the water, so I'll likely have to get it pulled out to see the bottom and keel as well. Not sure if the brokers yard will charge me for that or if they do it to get the sale??

Mark

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Bedford Chiropractic
www.bedfordchiro.ca
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On 07/04/2013 5:13 PM, dwight veinot wrote:
The boat is worth what you are willing to pay for it...if you get it at your
offer price great, if not look for something else

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin
Kilgour
Sent: April 7, 2013 5:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 - cont - how to make an offer

In the states, everybody uses the YBAA form for offers.  The selling
broker can provide the form.

Putting a survey as a condition is bog standard.  I've had it included
on boats where I didn't even end up doing a survey.

I wouldn't expect a ton of movement on price as a result of a survey.
  With a boat of that age and price point, if the survey turns up
something minor you might get some movement, but you might also get
"it's an old boat.  deal with it".  If a major item turns up (say a
wet deck) it probably just means that you walk away.

Good luck with it.

Cheers!
Colin


On 4/7/13, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:
Typically you make your offer contingent on survey. That can be as
detailed
as you like; hull survey, engine survey, and you can add sea trials to
test
systems. You are making the offer. If the owner accepts your offer, the
full
price would be expected unless the survey finds things wrong. Once
problems
are discovered, the owner can opt to fix them which is rare, or you can
lower your offer to offset the cost of repairs. Your survey should help
lower the offer to a "where-is, as-is" value cause the owner doesn't want
to
fix anything and wants out.

Be prepared for rejection. Make your offer low. If the owner accepts the
first offer, you came in high. Research other vessels w similar equipment
first. There are many 30's for sale on Yachtworld.com and there are other
sites.


Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Knowles Rich" <r...@sailpower.ca>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2013 3:11:51 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 - cont - how to make an offer

Just make your offer, get the survey done and negotiate the repairs after.
If you want to sit down over a coffee to discuss it, we can do that too.
Sender a phone number off list if you like. It's Sunday and I have some
time.

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-04-07, at 14:06, "Dr. Mark Bodnar" <drbod...@accesswave.ca> wrote:


So I'm "negotiating" with the broker of the C&C 30 I've been looking at.
(He
was away on vacation).

I brought up a few issues with the boat and his response was "older boats
have these issues, maybe you should look for a newer boat" -- Rather
friendly chap it seems!

I'm still looking at how to proceed. Overall the price of the boat is
quite
good, with a few issues. Most issues cosmetic - but a couple potentially
significant problems --- 1 chain plate looks a little corroded, and one
section of deck that looks rough in the pictures (my contact who looked at
the boat said it didn't feel soft, but he didn't try to tap it - starboard
deck, right next to companionway)

Having talked with my insurance agent I was advised that I would need to
have the boat professional surveyed and all significant issues dealt with
before it leaves the dock to head to Nova Scotia.

So - I've never done this part before. If I make an offer contingent on a
survey, is there specific wording. Does anyone have a "contract" in hand?
Any advice?
I figure I'll make an offer of $14000, contingent on survey, but what
should
I say about repairs?


Thanks,
Mark


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B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
Bedford Chiropractic
www.bedfordchiro.ca
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- George Santayana


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