Tartan will be in Miami. No idea which boats they are bringing. They had the 101 in Annapolis along with 2 Tartans.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Walt Dickie <wa...@crresearch.com> wrote: > Not too many 99s where I sail in the Chicago area, and as far as I know > none of them came with a sprit. But C&C can provide a kit to make the > conversion, and the local dealer mentioned to me one day that at least one > boat in our area has one installed. Basically the kit is the sprit itself > and the “tunnel” that it runs through on the starboard side of the bow. You > cut a good-size hole in the hull, glass in the tunnel, add the control > lines and you’re good to go. Possible, but not for the faint-hearted.**** > > ** ** > > Went to Strictly Sail Chicago over the weekend, and was hoping to be able > to see a 101. But no sign at all of C&C/Tartan. Nothing. No boats, no > booth. Long lines to go on the Bluejacket 40 and crowds around the J/70.** > ** > > ** ** > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David > Knecht > *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2013 9:49 AM > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 99**** > > ** ** > > It appears the built in sprit was an option on the 99 and at least one of > the boats on yachtworld has that installed. Dave**** > > ** ** > > On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:**** > > > > **** > > The pole can be used as a bowsprit if desired when using asym spinnaker. > As it is 10% longer than J when the mast track is lowered fully and pole is > attached it acts like a short sprit. This is how my friends sail their > asym spin some times.**** > > **** > > no idea about a 99 with a sprit. teh 101 seems to be that boat and is a > really interesting looking design ...**** > > **** > > Mike**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List > [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] > *On Behalf Of *David Knecht > *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2013 10:15 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 99**** > > Hi Mike- Thanks for the extensive review. Everything I have read and > heard about the boat makes me think that one is in my future. It is > precisely the size and characteristics I was looking for, and it > particularly appeals to my sense of karma after my happy experience with my > previous C&C (and its owner group). I will probably be looking for the > shoal draft as that is a compromise I am willing to make in this area since > I do not intend to seriously campaign the boat. One thing you did not > comment on is the bowsprit. I gather that was an option, and one that > attracted me to the boat. I will be sailing mostly shorthanded and so do > not intend to use a full spinnaker with pole. Having a sprit launched > chute seems to be a great compromise, but I have never sailed a boat with > one so I have absolutely no personal experience. Can anyone comment on > that? Thanks- Dave **** > > ** ** > > On Jan 28, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:**** > > > > **** > > David**** > > **** > > The 99 has a few variations. The most common and most recent being 5.5 ft > draft carbon fibre mast. Initially the boat had a deeper draft keel and > aluminum mast. A very very small number had the deeper keel and carbon > fibre mast and a number are the 5.5 ft keel with aluminum mast.**** > > **** > > I believe the original boat was 6.4 ft aluminum mast version and then the > shallow draft model was introduced as an option. At some point groups of > owners in the Chesapeake and another area convinced C&C to switch to only > the 5.5 ft boat for one design purposes and to deal better with the shallow > water areas where it was sailed.**** > > **** > > Our friends have the 5.5 ft keel carbon mast since they bought the boat to > sail in an area with a shallow entrance to our marina. The 6.4 ft keel > would not have worked there. Their boat arrived with the waterline a bit > off and C&C repainted the waterline over the first off season. The reason > for this was the design of the 5.5 ft keel which moved the center of mass > aft a bit on the boat. When racing it is very important to get the crew > weight out of the cockpit and forward esp because of this.**** > > **** > > A group of our friends race an Olson 30 which in our area for a time was > rated the same as the 99 at PHRF 99. They also raced in Chester Race Week > against a carbon mast 6.4 ft keel version of this boat. The Olson is > faster than the Shoal Draft 99 in almost every condition until their is > some chop and the winds are at approx 18 knots at which time the 99 is > faster esp upwind. The 6.4 ft keel is by our Olson friend's observation a > much faster boat than the SD version. It excels on all points of sail. At > some point in Nova Scotia it was realized that the C&C 99 handicap was > based on the original 6.4 ft keel and that when C&C changed the > specification for the standard boat the same handicap was used for the SD > version. This was also the case in New England. We now have the 6.4 ft > boat at 99 and the 5.5 ft version at 105 and PHRF-NE has a similar 6 second > difference. This only became apparent when a 6.4 ft model moved back to > the area and we have both models sailing here. I believe the difference > between the 5.5 ft and 6.4 ft boat is more like 9 sec/mile though ...**** > > **** > > The interior of the C&C 99 is well appointed. The table is an option and > hangs off the mast but is usable. Galley seems to work out well. The aft > cabin is a bit cramped but once you wedge yourself in the bunk is quite > comfortable for two people. Have slept there many times. The Vee berth > would be considered your stateroom. It is large, comfortable (much more so > than aft cabin - trust me) and has cabinetry to store clothing etc. > Storage aboard seems adequate also and the engine seems not to have > problems.**** > > **** > > I also sail a lot on a C&C 115. It has similar cabinet drawers and doors > and when the boat is much used the latches seem to be flimsy. Look for a > boat where the owner was obsessive with maintenance and it will be pristine > and very nice inside. Our friend's 99 is just that - pristine. It appears > to be one year old and has great inventory of both sails and electronics > that have been regularly updated.**** > > **** > > For sailing be aware that the boat has an oversized J+1 pole and matching > 200% spinnaker. This is the class standard and in our area is included in > the boats base rating. This means the spinnaker is very large and can be a > handful but the boat sails well with it and does not seem to be squirrelly > downwind. With the roller furling standard on the boat the common practice > is to furl and unfurl the headsail while racing and the cut of the headsail > is not diminished by the roller furling in size etc ... Seems to work well > **** > > **** > > The wheel is a large destroyer type wheel and the boat is very responsive > to the steering. It feels quite direct and is nicely set up. One caution > is that there seems to be some problem with the shivs with the C&Cs. The > 115 has had the cable jump off the shivs several times and the 99 has had > this happen once. The shivs are angled a bit but once they are replaced > the problem seems to go away. You may wish to check this area. I believe > with the 99 it occurred because a bolt worked itself out over time....**** > > **** > > The 99 is a good boat and sails at a decent speed as a modern 33 foot > cruising boat that can be raced. We are all very happy with how well the > 99 our friends purchased has worked out. There also has never been any > indication of the hull cracking issue that was reported on some of the > larger C&C models ...**** > > **** > > Not sure what else to add. These are great boats!**** > > **** > > Mike**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List > [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] > *On Behalf Of *David Knecht > *Sent:* Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:48 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 99**** > > ** ** > > On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Pat Nevitt wrote:**** > > > > **** > > I think there is someone on the list who posts occasionally that has one. > I can't remember his name. I have a friend that owns one and really likes > his. Do you want to race or cruise? **** > > Some of both, but the cruising is more weekending that longer and with > just my wife and I. Racing would be club for fun, not seriously > campaigning. I want a boat that can do both with me single-handing. > > **** > > He mostly races his and places in the middle of a fairly competitive PHRF > fleet. We did beat him once in my 29-2 this past frostbite series on a > 20kt wind day, but he claims it was because they turned around to pick up a > hat that went overboard (I never saw that!). I know of 2 for sale in the > Annapolis area. I know the owner of one of those and he has had it for > sale for a while and is motivated to let it go. > > Pat**** > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:47 PM, David Knecht <davidakne...@gmail.com> > wrote:**** > > I sold by C&C 34 a while back, and now I am in the market for a new boat. > One of the boats I plan to look at is a C&C 99. This list was always been > of great help, when I had my previous boat, so I am wondering if anyone has > comments on that particular vintage of C&C. I planned to search the > archive in case this has been discussed before, but I could find no way to > do that. Am I missing it? 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