It appears the built in sprit was an option on the 99 and at least one of the boats on yachtworld has that installed. Dave
On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote: > The pole can be used as a bowsprit if desired when using asym spinnaker. As > it is 10% longer than J when the mast track is lowered fully and pole is > attached it acts like a short sprit. This is how my friends sail their asym > spin some times. > > no idea about a 99 with a sprit. teh 101 seems to be that boat and is a > really interesting looking design ... > > Mike > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David > Knecht > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:15 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 99 > > Hi Mike- Thanks for the extensive review. Everything I have read and heard > about the boat makes me think that one is in my future. It is precisely the > size and characteristics I was looking for, and it particularly appeals to my > sense of karma after my happy experience with my previous C&C (and its owner > group). I will probably be looking for the shoal draft as that is a > compromise I am willing to make in this area since I do not intend to > seriously campaign the boat. One thing you did not comment on is the > bowsprit. I gather that was an option, and one that attracted me to the > boat. I will be sailing mostly shorthanded and so do not intend to use a > full spinnaker with pole. Having a sprit launched chute seems to be a great > compromise, but I have never sailed a boat with one so I have absolutely no > personal experience. Can anyone comment on that? Thanks- Dave > > On Jan 28, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote: > >> David >> >> The 99 has a few variations. The most common and most recent being 5.5 ft >> draft carbon fibre mast. Initially the boat had a deeper draft keel and >> aluminum mast. A very very small number had the deeper keel and carbon >> fibre mast and a number are the 5.5 ft keel with aluminum mast. >> >> I believe the original boat was 6.4 ft aluminum mast version and then the >> shallow draft model was introduced as an option. At some point groups of >> owners in the Chesapeake and another area convinced C&C to switch to only >> the 5.5 ft boat for one design purposes and to deal better with the shallow >> water areas where it was sailed. >> >> Our friends have the 5.5 ft keel carbon mast since they bought the boat to >> sail in an area with a shallow entrance to our marina. The 6.4 ft keel >> would not have worked there. Their boat arrived with the waterline a bit >> off and C&C repainted the waterline over the first off season. The reason >> for this was the design of the 5.5 ft keel which moved the center of mass >> aft a bit on the boat. When racing it is very important to get the crew >> weight out of the cockpit and forward esp because of this. >> >> A group of our friends race an Olson 30 which in our area for a time was >> rated the same as the 99 at PHRF 99. They also raced in Chester Race Week >> against a carbon mast 6.4 ft keel version of this boat. The Olson is faster >> than the Shoal Draft 99 in almost every condition until their is some chop >> and the winds are at approx 18 knots at which time the 99 is faster esp >> upwind. The 6.4 ft keel is by our Olson friend's observation a much faster >> boat than the SD version. It excels on all points of sail. At some point >> in Nova Scotia it was realized that the C&C 99 handicap was based on the >> original 6.4 ft keel and that when C&C changed the specification for the >> standard boat the same handicap was used for the SD version. This was also >> the case in New England. We now have the 6.4 ft boat at 99 and the 5.5 ft >> version at 105 and PHRF-NE has a similar 6 second difference. This only >> became apparent when a 6.4 ft model moved back to the area and we have both >> models sailing here. I believe the difference between the 5.5 ft and 6.4 >> ft boat is more like 9 sec/mile though ... >> >> The interior of the C&C 99 is well appointed. The table is an option and >> hangs off the mast but is usable. Galley seems to work out well. The aft >> cabin is a bit cramped but once you wedge yourself in the bunk is quite >> comfortable for two people. Have slept there many times. The Vee berth >> would be considered your stateroom. It is large, comfortable (much more so >> than aft cabin - trust me) and has cabinetry to store clothing etc. Storage >> aboard seems adequate also and the engine seems not to have problems. >> >> I also sail a lot on a C&C 115. It has similar cabinet drawers and doors >> and when the boat is much used the latches seem to be flimsy. Look for a >> boat where the owner was obsessive with maintenance and it will be pristine >> and very nice inside. Our friend's 99 is just that - pristine. It appears >> to be one year old and has great inventory of both sails and electronics >> that have been regularly updated. >> >> For sailing be aware that the boat has an oversized J+1 pole and matching >> 200% spinnaker. This is the class standard and in our area is included in >> the boats base rating. This means the spinnaker is very large and can be a >> handful but the boat sails well with it and does not seem to be squirrelly >> downwind. With the roller furling standard on the boat the common practice >> is to furl and unfurl the headsail while racing and the cut of the headsail >> is not diminished by the roller furling in size etc ... Seems to work well >> >> The wheel is a large destroyer type wheel and the boat is very responsive to >> the steering. It feels quite direct and is nicely set up. One caution is >> that there seems to be some problem with the shivs with the C&Cs. The 115 >> has had the cable jump off the shivs several times and the 99 has had this >> happen once. The shivs are angled a bit but once they are replaced the >> problem seems to go away. You may wish to check this area. I believe with >> the 99 it occurred because a bolt worked itself out over time.... >> >> The 99 is a good boat and sails at a decent speed as a modern 33 foot >> cruising boat that can be raced. We are all very happy with how well the 99 >> our friends purchased has worked out. There also has never been any >> indication of the hull cracking issue that was reported on some of the >> larger C&C models ... >> >> Not sure what else to add. These are great boats! >> >> Mike >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David >> Knecht >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:48 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 99 >> >> >> On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Pat Nevitt wrote: >> >>> I think there is someone on the list who posts occasionally that has one. >>> I can't remember his name. I have a friend that owns one and really likes >>> his. Do you want to race or cruise? >> Some of both, but the cruising is more weekending that longer and with just >> my wife and I. Racing would be club for fun, not seriously campaigning. I >> want a boat that can do both with me single-handing. >>> He mostly races his and places in the middle of a fairly competitive PHRF >>> fleet. We did beat him once in my 29-2 this past frostbite series on a >>> 20kt wind day, but he claims it was because they turned around to pick up a >>> hat that went overboard (I never saw that!). I know of 2 for sale in the >>> Annapolis area. I know the owner of one of those and he has had it for >>> sale for a while and is motivated to let it go. >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:47 PM, David Knecht <davidakne...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> I sold by C&C 34 a while back, and now I am in the market for a new boat. >>> One of the boats I plan to look at is a C&C 99. This list was always been >>> of great help, when I had my previous boat, so I am wondering if anyone has >>> comments on that particular vintage of C&C. I planned to search the >>> archive in case this has been discussed before, but I could find no way to >>> do that. Am I missing it? Thanks- Dave >>> >>> Professor David Knecht >>> Department of Molecular and Cell Biology >>> Microscopy Facility Director >>> U-3125 >>> 91 N. Eagleville Rd. >>> University of Connecticut >>> Storrs, CT 06269 >>> 860-486-2200 >>> 860-486-4331 (fax) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> Professor David Knecht >> Department of Molecular and Cell Biology >> Microscopy Facility Director >> U-3125 >> 91 N. Eagleville Rd. >> University of Connecticut >> Storrs, CT 06269 >> 860-486-2200 >> 860-486-4331 (fax) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > Professor David Knecht > Department of Molecular and Cell Biology > Microscopy Facility Director > U-3125 > 91 N. 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