Rick,
Like you I am a cruiser now too, most often only 2 of us on board.I like it a lot, cruising is enjoyable but I still pay careful attention to performance factors like sail trim, heel angle, boat speed and wind angle etc. but I use only my 135 furling headsail and my main sail, sometimes reefed.and I go where I want to not to where the race committee sends me. I fear my ego is shrinking with age.I pray nothing else follows that course Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: November 12, 2012 8:54 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating I don't seem to have made my original point clearly. What I was trying to say was that I've taken 10" off the keel of my 38 and added a wide 1150 lb bulb to compensate for lost righting moment. The wide bulb may act like a wing or an end plate on the keel I have left. But you can't tell from my experience that shortening the keel has an appreciable impact on pointing if it done right. Maybe I was lucky, but my 38 sails well at 28-29 apparent in normal air, and foots off to about 30-31 for best VMG in lighter air. My comments about Edge, the local 35 mk2, were a response to your comment about pointing at 30 and getting better VMG when footed off to 33. Edge has been sailed by the owner and a pretty regular crew for at least 13 years that I know of. For years before buying the 35, they sailed on a C&C 27. They do well, and have actually won the North Carolina Offshore Championship at least once. Their performance seems best between 30 and 33 or so - about the same as you report - and that seems to be 3 or 4 degrees more off the apparent wind than I can achieve with the 38. BTW, my 25 will point at about 32 or 33, but seems faster when footed off to about 34-35 apparent. Maybe this shows some sort of relationship - the longer the waterline and the deeper the keel, the higher you can sail. Regarding my comment on the PHRF ratings of my 38 and the local 35 Mk2, when I raced with credit for the keel mod at 120 (with the same crew for about 5 years) and he raced at 126, we were about evenly matched.. When I got my last PHRF rating (in 2007/2008) the fixed 2 blade prop was worth only +3 seconds and I never asked for any adjustment. Now James reports they gave him +12 seconds for the prop on Delaney, which would bring me up to 132 and give me the sort of advantage over the 35 that you would expect from a 38. But, hey, I'm a cruiser now not a racer. Most of the time the boat is single handed or has only 1 crew, and I only do 2 or 3 charity races a year so I'll always be having pickup crew who are experienced racers but inexperienced with my boat. Then again, it might be a lot of fun to go to Oriental more often and race head to head with James' 38, Delancey. Rick Brass Washington, NC
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