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bogi wrote:
> Ok,
> So since i did not see the data, i will call it a bluff. 
> -1- Linux is different not difficult to use, ppl would use the latter to 
> justify 
> the replacement. Obviously, if someone acknowledged there ignorance, and 
> inability to adapt to new (different) desktop setup, they would feel awkward 
> and may not get their refund / replacement laptop .

I know that Canonical is doing a lot of usability studies.  It should be
interesting to see what comes from that.  I know that anecdotally,
people seem to like the Ubuntu netbook interface, even on a regular
laptop or desktop.

> -2- Since a windows XP license costs like $100-$75 , and the price of the 

For manufactures like Dell and Asus, the cost is more like $35.  It is
difficult to tell because the actual cost is offset by the money that MS
gives manufacturers for "joint marketing".  While Dell et al. do market
Windows, it makes the economics really difficult to figure out unless
you work in the Dell or Asus accounting departments :)

> laptop is essentially the same whether you got it with (a Free) Linux or an 
> (expensive ) Xp. And the concept of ppl is , the more it is (worth) the 
> higher 
> is the itemized $$ value compared to what is displayed on the price tag, the 
> more desirable and (valuable) the product was. You can test this , you will 
> find it accurate down to the dollar.

Apple capitalizes on this.  It is why they are the only PC manufacturer
with profit margins of ~30% on their laptops and desktops.  I actually
dislike Apple more than Microsoft, they do not even compare in my mind.

> -3- If the option was to have a cut down Vista instead of a seven year old 
> XP, 
> I am sure the data would have been very different. But Microsoft is not an 
> idiot, the revived XP from the dead, and just for the net book for precisely 
> this reason.

Vista simply would not run on a netbook and XP did (Vista barely runs on
a dual core machine with 2 GiB of RAM). I have first hand knowledge that
Windows 7 runs just fine on a netbook, as long as it has a traditional
hard drive or better (on my 8 GB SSD, Windows 7 was unusable).  I am not
sure if you noticed, but I really hate these crappy SSDs.

> -4- Remember the resistance of the markets to abandon windows 95-98 nt for 
> the 
> new XP and 2000 .... ppl do resist change on their desktop to the last man 
> standing.
> 
So true, and the irony is that there is not a lot of change required,
much less than expected.  I expect that this trend will continue,
especially with MS pricing Windows 7 more aggressively.  Windows is
profitable at ~$30 per copy (perhaps lower), so they have a lot of room
to maneuver.

At this point I do not think that Desktop market share is a valid metric
for GNU/Linux.  I am quite happy with the quality that we have, and am
looking forward to an even better future.  The reality now is that
GNU/Linux powers most of our world, from cell phones, to TiVos, to NAS
devices, commercial routers and firewalls, Twitter, Facebook, the list
is literally endless.  Every one you, Juan, and I know depends on
GNU/Linux every single day, so I do not really worry about the desktop
market share numbers.  This is not to say that there is no improvement
needed, but there are very talented people hard at work making great
things even better.

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