+1 Apache cloudstack sounds Excellent!
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Rohit Yadav <bhais...@apache.org> wrote: > I agree with all the comments, from my side I think we're more mature > now than we were more than half year ago. > > We've two releases so far, third one to happen next. We've our release > timelines figured out. We've pretty active development, so many > checkins/day, a tons of emails on ML, comments/discussions/patches/fun > on jira, RB, irc. We've so many users posting their feedback, bug > reports and whatnot. We've seen an international conference in CCC12, > a lot more meetups around the world, blogs, tweets, and even a book in > an non-english language; not to mention real world deployments and > those awesome IRC chats between sysadmins, users and developers, and > companies who are contributing developer resources to the project. > We've regular irc meetings, our ppmc can tackle any project issue, we > saw licensing issues get resolved for example and they know how to run > the project and work with the community. Our committers are doing > great job at collaboratively working with each other, reviewing codes, > discussing things on ML, irc and whatnot. I think we're learning more > and more and we should rely less on our mentors as we're maturing, I > say we're ready. > > +1 cloudstack.apache.org would just look awesome-er :) > > Regards. > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:54 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:43 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Chip Childers > >>> <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: > >>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 09:59:39AM -0500, David Nalley wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Chip Childers > >>>>> <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: > >>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I started a conversation within cloudstack-private@i.a.o about the > >>>>>> prospect of graduation from the incubator, and have received > positive > >>>>>> reactions from everyone that replied. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I wanted to kick off the discussion here on the public list, to see > if > >>>>>> anyone has any concerns or objections to us starting down the path > of > >>>>>> trying to graduate? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> My general impression is that we have come a long way as a community > >>>>>> since CloudStack entered the incubator. While there are still rough > edges > >>>>>> for us to work through over time, we are dealing with our problems > quite > >>>>>> well as a community. The simple reason that I believe we are in a > >>>>>> position to ask to graduate, is that we are no longer getting value > from > >>>>>> the incubation process! That's a good thing, because it means that > we > >>>>>> have managed to learn quite a bit about the ASF processes, rules, > >>>>>> methods and preferences. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thoughts, comments, discussion? > >> > >> Are you thinking to do this prior to 4.2 release ? > >> > >> With my individual hat on, I think it might be best to put up a strong > 4.2 release and then vote for graduation. It would strengthen our case. > >> > > > > > > So I had similar thoughts originally and actually meant 4.2. > > > > Here is what changed my mind: > > > > I don't see us actively receiving any benefit from continuing in > > incubation. We are far from perfect, but the project seems to be > > policing itself. so I am not seeing a huge incentive to staying. > > > > There are also some downsides to remaining in incubation. First > > there's the label 'incubation' that follows almost everything we do, > > and is potentially off-putting to potential community members. Second > > as a community there are a number of things we can't do for ourselves, > > and thus have to ask permission or for help - this includes votes on > > releases, creating new user accounts, etc. I think of this as the > > overhead of being in the incubator. > > > > And finally, while this isn't really a big deal from our perspective, > > we have 8 mentors, and their continued focus on us means more of their > > time they can't focus on other incubating projects. And given our -dev > > list volume, I imagine us to be a handful to keep up with. > > > > --David >
