Hey Manah,

Can you put in a requirements that this feature is only available if Vlans are 
actually in use? It might be interesting to make sure that this "nTier apps" is 
also available for sites with an SDN based installation like Nicira NVP.

Cheers,

Hugo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manan Shah [mailto:manan.s...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 12:30 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [ASFCS41] nTier Apps 2.0
> 
> Thanks David for brining a good point regarding 2.18. You are correct that a
> VLAN should not be exposed to an end user. I will re-word the requirement
> to make it more specific for an admin to assign a VLAN.
> 
> Regards,
> Manan Shah
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/13/12 1:24 PM, "David Nalley" <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> 
> >It's very hard to have a discussion here when all of the information to
> >be discussed is elsewhere. Please consider posting it here for the
> >discussion.
> >
> >WRT 2.18 - Allowing an end user to assign a  VLAN ID strikes me as very
> >undesirable. First, it allows users to have insight into the underlying
> >infrastructure when lots of work has been exerted to abstract all of
> >that away from end users. Secondly, it is information leakage, because
> >you can't allow collisions, so there will be a failure to provision the
> >VLAN which will tell folks that the VLAN is in use, which could provide
> >information as to the size of the underlying network infrastructure or
> >other information.
> >
> >--David
> >
> >On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Manan Shah <manan.s...@citrix.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I would like to propose a new feature for extending the nTier Apps
> >>feature introduced in CS 4.0. I have created a JIRA ticket and
> >>provided the requirements at the following location.  Please provide
> >>feedback on the requirements.
> >>
> >> JIRA Ticket: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-621
> >> Requirements:
> >>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/nTier+Apps+2
> .0+
> >>Req
> >>uirements
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Manan Shah

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