Extending a little more on Herwig's previous idea, a good "Clojure 
framework" could be a collection of schemas, protocols and interfaces. A 
"ring for the whole stack".

Creating our stack will be a matter of composing our web pipeline with our 
desired libraries. Even templates could become unnecessary, despite being 
very helpful to lower the entry point for new developers. IMHO *that* is 
the power of data driven architectures that we like to sell, isn't?

[]'s
Andrew

On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 11:51:36 AM UTC-3, Plinio Balduino wrote:
>
> Mr Herwig
>
> "That said: I'd love to see a set of well-maintained, well-documented 
> project templates to emerge from a common brand, for the benefit of 
> beginners and 10h website creators."
>
> THIS is exactly what I was discussing right now with a friend.
>
> I think you nailed it.
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Herwig Hochleitner <hhochl...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> 2015-05-03 16:27 GMT+02:00 Fluid Dynamics <a209...@trbvm.com 
>> <javascript:>>:
>>
>>>
>>> So, basically, Clojure *is* the framework? :) 
>>>
>>> Exactly! As is any language that you choose to work in. That means that 
>> buying into at least one framework is nessecary to get started with 
>> programming anyway.
>> With clojure, the predominant attitude seems to be: If I can buy into one 
>> framework, that gives me a skinnable, turing-complete language and focuses 
>> on composition, why should I buy into further frameworks, that can only 
>> distance me from my peers that use something else?
>>
>> That said: I'd love to see a set of well-maintained, well-documented 
>> project templates to emerge from a common brand, for the benefit of 
>> beginners and 10h website creators.
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