On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Phillip Lord
<phillip.l...@newcastle.ac.uk>wrote:

>
>
> Guess you have programmed before. Besides which, if I am teaching any
> significant number of students, I will get the sys admins to do the
> installation; otherwise, you the first two weeks, you spend running
> around fixing peoples environment.
>
> This kind of nonsense is soul-destroying for new programmers; it's
> depressing and saps their desire to learn.


Ah, ok. Understood. Point taken.


> Old programmers know the
> tricks to get through this quickly (students never believe me when I
> tell them that they will still be writing hello world in 10 years time);
> and besides, most old programmers sold their souls years ago.
>
> All aside from the confusion that of "to start Clojure, type lein". Does
> that make any sense?
>
> Phil


To me, this begins to look more like a "user interface" issue than strictly
a programming issue. The folks who do interface design have a technique -
"pretend it's magic". What would the solution look like if it was "magic" (
setting all programming considerations aside for the moment) ?

The student installs something  ... opens something ... and something just
works. How would you flesh that out?

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