On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Laurent PETIT wrote:
> You (and to some extent me) can easily play with both forms.
> But why both forms ? That's curse of knowledge in action, because this
> will make no sense at all for newcomers, and there's no good reason
> for having both, except historical ones.

Ah -- that I get. I hereby retract my grumbling :-).

 -Lee

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