I feel your pain BJG145, when I started learning Clojure I used 
Clooj<https://github.com/arthuredelstein/clooj> to 
be able start playing with the language, it provides the basics, a REPL, a 
text area for the code and a tree of files and folder for the current 
project. It's simple and get's you started, you can for example follow book 
examples with it, or try new concepts and play around. Once I started 
feeling that the pieces were fitting together, I began to consider checking 
what Leiningen was all about. At that time there was no .bat file for 
Windows, so I decided to use cygwin <http://www.cygwin.com/> instead, which 
is a *nix like command-line environment for Windows, and it has worked like 
charm since then. 

Coming from IDE's like Eclispse and Visual Studio, getting used to the 
command-line for running things, was far from my comfort zone, and I think 
I understand where you are coming from. Counter-Clockwise 
<https://github.com/laurentpetit/ccw>is an Eclipse 
<http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/>plugin, really easy to install that is, 
IMHO, one of the best user-friendly, GUI-familiar options for Clojure 
development right now. 

Still, I think some tool is missing for Clojure that can lower the 
difficulties for newcomers to try out the language and be able to reap the 
benefits of using it, while avoiding to be overwhelmed by the initial 
environment configuration. It may seem trivial to some, but I think it's 
because we get used to the workflow, but for someone who's new, every 
little detail needs consideration and every new concept needs to be 
grasped, so if the configuration details and concepts could be minimized, 
then I think the language would speak for itself.

Anyway, I digress. I just wanted to finish this post saying that if you 
take the time to learn Clojure I think you'll have fun in the process, you 
will have a very powerful tool under your belt and you'll get support from 
a friendly community.

Cheers,

J

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:29:07 PM UTC-3, BJG145 wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions - this really isn't an anti-Leiningen thread, 
> I'm just impatient that I don't understand it yet. But I'll give it another 
> crack and post some more coherent queries when I get stuck...:-)
>  
>

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