You are certainly not alone. Learning the language and concepts is very easy for me, but the sysadmin stuff to get set up is so much harder. Believe it or not, I had much more trouble with installing core.logic than understanding it. It doesn't end either, you bump into more problems once you try to do something interesting. Just try e.g. to call the LLVM C api from Clojure, I have not succeeded to this day (was trying to implement a LLVM backend for Clojurescript). You have the same problem with many open source projects, they are simply not focused on user friendliness, it's certainly not a Clojure specific problem. If you are on Windows the problems are 10x worse. Compare this with e.g. Visual Studio. You install it, and everything just works. Package manager, calling C functions, powerful GUI libraries, IDE with debugger, syntax highlighting, autocomplete, etc. From the first minute on you are programming rather than sysadmining. I wish we had the same experience for Clojure.
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 7:42:57 PM UTC+1, BJG145 wrote: > > Having studied Lisp decades ago I like the look of Clojure a lot. But as a > complete newbie when it comes to modern software development, I'm > exasperated by what strikes me as a very difficult and primitive set of > tools to get started. I keep seeing "Leinigen, Leinigen", and the Leinigen > homepage boasts that "Leinigen offers the easiest way to get started with > Clojure", but this simply isn't true. The easiest way to get started with > Clojure that I've come across so far is IntelliJ IDEA. If I hadn't found > that I'd probably have given up by now. > > What got me back into programming recently was a Lua-based development > environment for Android called Gideros. Lua seems popular for developing > apps for some reason. (Cf Corona, Moia, Unity). It seems like quite a neat > language, though I'd like to use something more Lisp-like. Maybe the tools > are just too difficult for me at the moment, though I'll persevere for a > bit. I'd like to achieve some simple graphics on an Android device at > least. I've come across some tutorials for CLojure and jMonkey and I'm > wondering to dive into that, though I'm still unsure whether OpenGL is the > way to go for simple 2D stuff... > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
