On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Colin Yates <colin.ya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Absolutely nothing to add to the argument as such except to say that I am
> quite surprised at the level of resistance to James' thread.  I can see the
> argument if this was the 'dev' mailing list.
> I have been reading this mailing list for a long while now (even if I
> haven't contributed much to it) but if this had been the first post I had
> read I would have a very negative opinion of the *clojure community*.  It
> comes off as sounding like "if you don't like what we do, go away - it is
> our way or the highway", which would be a terrible shame as I don't *think*
> that is the case?  If I wanted that atmosphere there are plenty of other
> places to go.
> Sure, I get that James' email didn't really provide any points of
> discussion, it was more a moan (sorry James ;)), but so what - I don't see
> anybody shooting down "ClojureScript - I love it" type posts.  And maybe a
> better response would be asking "OK, this guy clearly doesn't get it - how
> can we improve our communication"?
> Rich - we are *all* grateful and I expect I am not alone in being amazed at
> the technical marvel you have pulled out of the hat.  But to be honest I
> think you need a thicker skin.  Getting your strokes from the mailing list
> is dangerous at best.  To be disheartened by one negative post in the midst
> of positive votes is a bit worrying.
> If this mailing list is for the community to discuss Clojure and ask
> Clojurians for help then these responses were inappropriate.  If this
> mailing list is to "big up" Clojure then fine - but make that explicit.
>
> Col (surprisingly disappointed and feels strongly enough to send this at the
> risk of being called a troll himself!)
>
> P.S.  Strongly opinionated communities that shoots down criticisms of "the
> great leaders' achievements" is unfortunately not breaking new ground - so
> stop this :) and move onto the next ground breaking tool!

+1 to all of that.

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