On Mar 22, 2:48 pm, Sean Devlin <francoisdev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are a ton of people who are ready for dabbling with Clojure but
> aren't ready for production systems.  You'd be surprised how linearly
> independent system administration skills and software development
> skills really are.  They aren't quite orthogonal, but it's amazingly
> close.

Maybe so, but if getting into Clojure is a series of struggles with
unfamiliar concepts then dealing with a jar file is by far the least
daunting. Naturally I'm all for making the new-user experience as
pleasant and simple as possible but I'm not sure what exactly could be
done at this point to make it much easier than it is. Certainly
anybody that expects to be able to build it from source on an exotic
Linux distro should also be prepared to roll up their own sleeves a
bit.

Perhaps it would be useful to at least included a ready-to-go clj
shell/batch script in the default distribution? That's what Scala,
Groovy and Jruby do? The only obstacle I remember from my first
experiments with Clojure was getting a working clj shell script
together. Had I started with Stuart's book that wouldn't have been a
problem either.

On the other hand, if you go to the "getting started" pages of Jruby,
Groovy they're actually far more daunting (IMO) than Clojure's:
http://groovy.codehaus.org/Tutorial+1+-+Getting+started
http://kenai.com/projects/jruby/pages/GettingStarted

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