On Mar 22, 2:48 pm, Sean Devlin <francoisdev...@gmail.com> wrote: > There are a ton of people who are ready for dabbling with Clojure but > aren't ready for production systems. You'd be surprised how linearly > independent system administration skills and software development > skills really are. They aren't quite orthogonal, but it's amazingly > close.
Maybe so, but if getting into Clojure is a series of struggles with unfamiliar concepts then dealing with a jar file is by far the least daunting. Naturally I'm all for making the new-user experience as pleasant and simple as possible but I'm not sure what exactly could be done at this point to make it much easier than it is. Certainly anybody that expects to be able to build it from source on an exotic Linux distro should also be prepared to roll up their own sleeves a bit. Perhaps it would be useful to at least included a ready-to-go clj shell/batch script in the default distribution? That's what Scala, Groovy and Jruby do? The only obstacle I remember from my first experiments with Clojure was getting a working clj shell script together. Had I started with Stuart's book that wouldn't have been a problem either. On the other hand, if you go to the "getting started" pages of Jruby, Groovy they're actually far more daunting (IMO) than Clojure's: http://groovy.codehaus.org/Tutorial+1+-+Getting+started http://kenai.com/projects/jruby/pages/GettingStarted -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.