Hmm... maybe something like this? http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/
Or this? http://www.openoffice.org/ Sean On Mar 22, 12:39 pm, Lee Spector <lspec...@hampshire.edu> wrote: > Yes, yes and yes: The videos are great, and all of the information is out > there, but it was hard for me to find as I first waded in. And getting > contrib to work was one of my first problems. BTW I'd also like to reinforce > that although full IDEs aren't necessary to begin -- and besides they're > often a matter of taste -- something *slightly* beyond a bare REPL would be a > big help for beginners. In particular an editor with language-aware indenting > and parentheses/bracket matching is one thing that can make a big difference > (and it'd be nice if getting this didn't require too many steps). > > One other beginner issue that hasn't been mentioned is the fuzzy line between > Clojure and Java in the documentation, which is of course one of Clojure's > strengths via interop, and therefore probably always going to be a little > messy. But coming from a life in which CLtL2 was all I needed for a reference > (and similar things in other languages) I was initially somewhat confused > when basic-seeming things weren't in the Clojure docs, and then were or > weren't in the contrib docs, and then I finally realized that I have to > always look at both of those and then everything that Java provides and quite > reasonably hasn't been reimplemented in Clojure. I'm not saying any of those > design decisions is bad (on the contrary), but the diffuseness of some of the > documentation can be confusing to newcomers, especially those not coming from > Java. I could imagine a sort of meta-index to all of this that would be > really helpful -- but of course it would also be a lot of work. > > -Lee > > On Mar 22, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Luc Préfontaine wrote: > > > > > I looked at these videos and they are a very good starting point. > > Then do we have a communication problem getting these things known ? > > Are these videos listed on the "Getting started" page ? > > > What about using contrib ? That would be the first "classpath" problem a > > newcomer would face. > > > It looks to me that we have all the answers but not in a single spot. > > > Luc P. > > > On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 06:44 -0700, Sean Devlin wrote: > >> Luc, > >> Windows users should be good to go. Clojurebox, Enclojure & CCW are > >> ready for use for any Java dev with some experience. As for the > >> installation process, pick you poison: > > >>http://vimeo.com/tag:install_clojure > > >> Sorry to self-post, > >> Sean > > >> On Mar 22, 7:31 am, Luc Préfontaine <lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca> > >> wrote: > >> > Is my first impression right or wrong ? > > >> > Is Clojure harder to setup from Windows for beginners ? > > >> > Would an installer (.msi) help by hiding Java related details and > >> > providing some basic scripts to run it ? > > >> > Luc P. > > >> > On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 16:48 +0530, Martin DeMello wrote: > >> > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Joel Westerberg > >> > > <joel.westerb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > Every time I've started up with a clojure project I've had to spend > >> > > > a few > >> > > > hours fiddling with the environment, not that I don't do that with > >> > > > other > >> > > > languages, but it would be nice with an officially sanctioned > >> > > > solution for > >> > > > setting up a sane environment. > > >> > > Even better, an officially sanctioned solution expressed both as > >> > > documentation, and as a collection of shell scripts for all the major > >> > > platforms. > > >> > > (As another non-java-familiar clojure adoptee, classpaths were > >> > > definitely a hurdle) > > >> > > martin > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > > your first post. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > clojure+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words > > "REMOVE ME" as the subject. > > -- > Lee Spector, Professor of Computer Science > School of Cognitive Science, Hampshire College > 893 West Street, Amherst, MA 01002-3359 > lspec...@hampshire.edu,http://hampshire.edu/lspector/ > Phone: 413-559-5352, Fax: 413-559-5438 > > Check out Genetic Programming and Evolvable > Machines:http://www.springer.com/10710-http://gpemjournal.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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